In Episode 4 of our six-part conversation with actor, producer, and longtime billiards broadcaster Mitch Laurance, the story turns on a single moment in Winston-Salem that changed everything.

Mitch takes us back to 1990—sent to “go play pool” at a charity night during a golf event—only to find two tables… and two legends. On one side: Nick Varner. On the other: a Swedish star with “green laser eyes,” Ewa Mataya, already at the top of her game. Mitch hadn’t come looking for love, but one glance across the felt and the universe had other plans. What begins as trash talk and $5 racks quickly becomes hours of real conversation, the kind that feels like you’ve known someone forever.

From there, the coincidences get even wilder—Seattle, the same date, two separate bookings that collide into something cosmic. Mitch shares how a lifelong bachelor at 40 suddenly finds himself reshaping every instinct, every habit, and every definition of responsibility. And then comes the biggest shift of all: Nikki, Ewa’s five-year-old daughter, meeting Mitch for the first time and delivering a line that still defines their relationship decades later.

This episode also offers a fascinating window into Ewa’s rise beyond the arena—from her dominance in 1990 to the media explosion that followed, including the iconic New York Times Magazine cover—and what it felt like for Mitch to step into a world he barely understood… until he was living inside it.

And just when you think the story can’t take another turn, Mitch explains how he went from “I don’t play pool” to becoming the voice guiding ESPN’s first WPBA telecasts—thanks to one unforgettable, profane push at exactly the right moment.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

In Part 3 of our multi-part life-story conversation with American film and television actor—and longtime sports broadcaster—Mitch Laurance, we detour through the worlds that shaped him long before pool took center stage.

Mitch takes us back to Los Angeles in the 1980s, when a persistent friend talked him into an early-morning tee time at Balboa. What happened next surprised him: not instant love for golf, but total fascination. Here was a ball sitting still on the ground… and he couldn’t hit it. That maddening mystery became an obsession—fueling lessons, practice, and a deep dive into the competitive side of the game as he chased improvement, rounds, and a lower handicap.

From there, Mitch opens the door to the L.A. golf scene: the public gems like Griffith Park, Balboa, Encino, and Rancho Park, and the private clubs he came to know through celebrity events and friendships—Riviera, Bel-Air, Wilshire, Lakeside, and more. Along the way, he shares the actors and friends who became regular playing partners, including Craig T. Nelson, Andy Garcia, Chris Lemmon, and others.

Then we shift from fairways to film sets as Mitch reflects on the craft of acting—what it feels like to be “in the moment,” truly free, and creating something that didn’t exist before. He also speaks candidly about impostor syndrome, awe-filled encounters with icons like Lauren Bacall and Gregory Peck, and the performance he’s most proud of—an L.A. Law episode that taught him what it meant to be “free to be good enough.”

And yes… Mitch answers the question: did he ever feel famous? The answer involves an AT&T commercial, a phone booth, and one unforgettable line—“Bula Vinaka Beachside.”

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

In Part 2 of our conversation with actor and sports broadcaster Mitch Laurance, Mitch takes us deeper into the improbable zigzags that turned a behind-the-scenes job at Saturday Night Live into a front-row seat to entertainment history—and ultimately, into a life on camera.

Mitch starts where most origin stories don’t: as a production “gopher” in the early days of SNL, absorbing the chaos, the pressure, and the genius up close. But week by week, opportunity finds him. He becomes a researcher for the writers, hunts down film and music clips, calls cues from the control room, and eventually earns his way into the Directors Guild. Then comes the moment that still feels surreal: Lorne Michaels taps Mitch to produce 20 prime-time “Best of SNL” specials, combing through sketches by theme and cutting them together with what Mitch calls “45-year-old technology.”

As the show explodes, Mitch quietly discovers something else—he likes being in the sketches. A line here, an extra there… and by 1980, with the original era ending, he makes a bold leap: move to Los Angeles and give acting a real shot.

That leap comes with a mind-bending twist. Mitch lands in Penny Marshall’s guest house, surrounded by a revolving door of Hollywood royalty—De Niro, Albert Brooks, Carrie Fisher, and more—while battling the ultimate imposter syndrome. Penny changes everything when she gifts him a role on Laverne & Shirley, getting him his Screen Actors Guild card and breaking the industry’s infamous catch-22.

But the heart of this episode is the complicated, deeply human story of Mitch and his twin brother Matthew—competition, distance, resentment, forgiveness—and the powerful creative reunion that follows, including memorable work together on Cop Rock, The Commish, and a standout Outer Limits episode built on parallel universes.

It’s a story about timing, doors opening, and choosing reconciliation—just before we pivot toward the pool world and one legendary “Striking Viking.”

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

In this opening chapter of our multi-part conversation, Mitch Laurance takes us all the way back—before the bright lights of television, before the broadcast booth, before the roles that made his career a near-constant highlight reel—back to a simpler time on the south shore of Long Island.

Born in Queens and raised in Hewlett, Mitch shares what it really felt like growing up as an identical twin: the built-in best friend, the constant competition, the comfort of always having someone to throw a football to, run pass routes with, or battle one-on-one on the backyard hoop. It’s a window into a childhood shaped by sports, neighborhood freedom, and family dinners—long before screens took over daily life.

Mitch also paints a moving portrait of his parents: a steady, quiet father who anchored the household, and a magnetic, big-hearted mother who seemed to know everyone, everywhere—right up through her later years. Along the way, he reflects on the one thing many of us wish we’d done more of: asking our parents the deeper questions while we still had the chance.

From there, the story pivots into the late-1960s college experience—an era that cracked Mitch’s world wide open—and then into a string of “how did that happen?” turns: photography school, restaurant work, a short-lived banking career in Louisville that ended with a two-week notice typed in a flash of clarity… and finally, the moment that changed everything.

A friend. A brand-new show. A simple offer: “ Lorne Michaels needs a gopher.”
Next thing Mitch knows, he’s making $93 a week, running on no sleep, and living in a tiny room above a sandwich shop—right as Saturday Night Live is being born.

And that’s just the beginning.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

In the final chapter of our four-part life story with WPBA Hall of Famer Ewa Mataya Laurance, we land where legends are forged: on the road, under the lights, and in the moments that reveal what matters most.

Ewa takes us inside a whirlwind era when she was traveling 260 days a year—tournaments, exhibitions, corporate events, and the kind of surreal TV appearances that can pull an athlete away from the very craft that made them famous. It’s a candid look at success: how it arrives fast, demands yes, and quietly reshapes priorities.

From there, Ewa opens the curtain on the business battle behind women’s professional pool—her time leading the WPBA, fighting for excellence over image, and pushing back against the idea that the sport should be marketed as entertainment first. She recalls pivotal negotiations with ESPN, the strategy that helped create meaningful airtime for a true tour, and the tug-of-war moments that defined an entire generation of women’s pool.

And then… the match.

Ewa relives the victory she treasures most—not a world title by name, but a win that felt like the ultimate statement: defeating the incomparable Allison Fisher in the finals of the 2012 Soaring Eagle Masters, in what she calls the last great ESPN era before the shift to ESPN3. From switching cues days before the event to reading the smallest signs of pressure across the arena, she brings us shot-by-shot into the mindset of a champion who still knew how to summon greatness.

We close with our signature three questions—Ewa’s moving reflections on forgiveness, the one “mulligan” she’d take back, and how she hopes to be remembered: hard-working, honest, stubborn, fair… and a very good grandma.

This is Ewa’s finish—full of fire, heart, and truth.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

In Part 3 of our four-part Legends of the Cue conversation with pool Hall of Famer Ewa Mataya Laurance, the “Striking Viking” hits the most turbulent—and transformative—stretch of her career.

We rewind to 1990–91, the period Ewa calls her finest run: taking over World No. 1, stacking five tour titles, and earning Billiards Digest Player of the Year. But the wins came with weight. Newly divorced and raising her daughter as a single mom, Ewa describes the constant hustle—practice squeezed into basement sessions, tournaments with a child in tow, and the pressure of turning greatness into a living.

Then comes the moment that changed everything: the 1992 New York Times Magazine cover story. Ewa walks us through how a “sure, another interview” turned into a two-week deep dive that flipped her life upside down—followed by an avalanche of mainstream attention (Letterman calling the poolroom, national TV hits, glossy magazines)… and a rare opportunity for women’s professional pool.

Because the timing was perfect. As the spotlight intensified, Ewa and fellow players were building the nuts and bolts of a new era—helping launch the WPBA Tour into bigger markets and bigger moments. But the tradeoff was real: fewer hours at the table, more days on the road, and the delicate balance between promoting the sport and protecting your game.

We also hear how meeting (and later marrying) Mitchell reshaped her world, why the arrival of Allison Fisher changed how many top American players approached fundamentals, and the emotional punch of Ewa’s 1998 Brunswick Boston Classic win—running a gauntlet through the very best when she “had something to prove.”

Finally, we reach her BCA Hall of Fame induction and the unforgettable phone call to Sweden—where her dad isn’t quite sure what a “Hall of Fame” even is.

You need to stay tuned for our fourth and final episode with "The Striking Viking"

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

Part 2 picks up as Ewa Mataya Laurance—“The Striking Viking”—plants her feet in America with one goal: play pool, and nothing else. From home in Michigan to road trips with her friend Vicky Frechen (Paski), Ewa relives the hustle behind the highlight reels: waitressing shifts, a brief—and doomed—stint in an insurance office (“How did you get here?”), and even landing a job at a Playboy Club, learning the bunny dip while trying to run racks on a bumper-pool table in costume.

But the real story is the turning points. Ewa opens up about becoming a young mother, the fear and responsibility that reshaped her life, and how that pressure changed her relationship with the game. Then comes the breakthrough: the gritty, smoke-thick Maverick Club scene, a title match versus Lori Shampo, and the moment 20 FBI agents storm the room mid-finals—forcing Ewa to fight not only for the trophy, but for the scoreline itself.

Along the way, Ewa, Allison Fisher, and Mark Wilson revisit the stars and influencers of the era—Belinda Bearden, LoreeJon, Gloria Walker, Vivian Villarreal, Billie Billing, Palmer Byrd, and more—painting a vivid picture of women’s pro pool before it went mainstream. Ewa also shares a surprising partnership with “Mr. Humble” Mike Sigel in a pioneering live doubles event, plus what it felt like to watch trailblazer Jean Balukas carry the weight of attention, controversy, and expectation on national TV on ESPN—right up to the $200 fine that became her exit line.

Outside the arena, a Brunswick sponsorship arrives just as Ewa’s marriage fractures—raising the stakes on every rack as she chases big wins like her U.S. Open titles of the late ’80s. And in a fascinating behind-the-scenes chapter, she details the ambitious (and messy) attempt to unite men and women under one tour umbrella—the early blueprint that foreshadowed modern professional pool.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

In this first chapter of our four-part life-story series, we welcome one of the most captivating figures ever to pick up a cue: Pool Hall of Famer Ewa Mataya Laurance—the iconic “Striking Viking.” From her earliest days in Sweden, Ewa takes us back to a childhood defined by energy, independence, and a love of sport. She was a goalkeeper in soccer, a force on the basketball court, and—by her own admission—a “control freak” who quickly realized team sports couldn’t match her appetite for precision, responsibility, and self-determination.

Then came the moment that changed everything: a curious teenage visit to a local pool hall. What began as tagging along because of a crush soon turned into genuine fascination—especially after someone explained why the best players chose certain shots and patterns in straight pool. That doorway into the chess-like strategy of cue sports lit a fire in Ewa that never went out.

Ewa shares vivid memories of Sweden’s vibrant club scene—Sunday tournaments that were equal parts competition and community, packed Jack-and-Jill events, and long bus trips to challenge rival clubs across the country. She reflects on the mentors who shaped her early understanding of pattern play and the hunger to “open the next door” of knowledge in a game with endless layers.

But the heart of Part 1 is the boldest decision of all: at just 17 years old, after competing in New York City at the World Championship in the storied Roosevelt Hotel, Ewa falls headlong into the electric world of American pool—legends, late nights, and possibilities she’d only seen in magazine pages. Then she makes the call that stunned her parents: she isn’t coming home… at least not yet.

This is where the legend truly begins.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”