In this powerful and deeply human conclusion to our multi-part conversation, Pat Fleming reflects on a life spent giving more to the game of pool than he ever took from it. Known worldwide as the founder of Accu-Stats, Fleming opens the door to the values, decisions, and moments that shaped both his career and his character.

The episode begins with gratitude—gratitude for fans across generations who discovered pool history through his lens, and for a team so committed to the mission that they’d show up even without a paycheck. Pat speaks candidly about legacy: preserving moments so future players can see greatness, not just hear about it. For him, the joy has always been in sharing history with people who weren’t yet born when legends first ran racks.

We also hear stories that reveal the competitor behind the camera. Fleming recounts his own days as a formidable straight-pool player, including memorable battles with icons like Steve Mizerak—moments that remind us he didn’t just document excellence; he lived it. From there, the conversation turns delightfully personal, touching on skydiving mishaps, lifelong athletic curiosity, and his current passion for long-distance cycling—where, at 75, he’s still chasing records with a grin.

The final moments bring three signature questions that distill Pat’s philosophy. What would he tell his 20-year-old self? Why family matters more than any missed shot. And how does he want to be remembered? Simply: as someone who contributed, who wasn’t selfish, and who built something lasting.

It’s a fitting close to a remarkable life story—one defined by service, integrity, and an unwavering belief that preserving history matters. This is Pat Fleming, forever part of the fabric of the game, and now forever part of Legends of the Cue.

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In Part III of our in-depth conversation with Pat Fleming, the Hall of Famer and founder of Accu-Stats pulls back the curtain on the pivotal chapter that reshaped both his life and the future of recorded pool history.

Pat walks us through the emotional and practical decision to separate Accu-Stats’ legendary video library from its production arm—a move born from personal loss, hard-earned perspective, and a desire to focus on what mattered most. The result? One of the great win-win stories in cue-sports history: nearly four decades of priceless matches preserved, monetized, and shared with fans worldwide, while Pat refocused his energy on producing world-class events like the International Open.

From there, the conversation shifts into the mechanics—and madness—of tournament production. Cameras, commentary booths, lighting rigs, graphics, audio teams, and a 40-person staff all come into play as Pat explains how Accu-Stats evolved from a single stationary camera into a full-scale broadcast operation, learned in real time, one necessity at a time.

This episode is also packed with unforgettable stories from the booth and beyond: capturing Efren Reyes’ iconic Z-Shot, perfectly timing the camera on Mike Sigel’s infamous cue-snap, and witnessing moments of brilliance, frustration, humor, and humanity that only live tournament coverage can deliver. Pat reflects on the commentators who brought matches to life, the unique chemistry of legendary broadcast pairings, and why sometimes the most controversial voices are also the most insightful.

Throughout it all, Pat’s perspective is clear-eyed and generous—an archivist’s respect for history paired with a promoter’s understanding of entertainment. It’s a masterclass in legacy, storytelling, and why preserving the game’s greatest moments matters just as much as creating new ones.

This is Pat Fleming at full stride: historian, innovator, and lifelong steward of the sport.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”

In Part 2 of our in-depth Legends of the Cue conversation with Hall of Famer and Accu-Stats founder Pat Fleming, we dive deeper into the ideas, inventions, and relentless curiosity that forever altered how the game of pool is played, studied, and preserved.

Pat takes us behind the scenes of Accu-Stats’ evolution—from single, stationary cameras and silent VHS tapes to groundbreaking commentary, moving cameras, and a production standard that reshaped the sport. He shares the unlikely story of how legendary voices like Billy Incardona, Grady Mathews and Danny DiLiberto helped create an entirely new viewing experience, turning raw match footage into something educational, entertaining, and timeless.

This episode also showcases Pat the inventor. Long before jump cues became commonplace, Pat was experimenting with short cues, counterweights, racks, and training aids—many of which laid the foundation for equipment players now take for granted. His philosophy is simple and profound: most ideas fail, but the few that stand the test of time can change the game.

A central theme of this episode is Pat’s lifelong devotion to statistics. Fleming explains why Total Performance Average (TPA) reveals far more about a player’s true skill than the final score ever could—and why understanding numbers is one of the fastest paths to improvement. As Mark Wilson and Allison Fisher note, Accu-Stats didn’t just record history; it taught generations of players how to think differently about winning pool.

The episode closes with a remarkable behind-the-scenes story involving the U.S. Open, Barry Behrman, and Matchroom—an example of Pat’s integrity, foresight, and commitment to the long-term health of the sport.

This is a masterclass in innovation, integrity, and passion—from one of pool’s true architects.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”