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  • Ep27. Leather Reinforcement Issues. Removing Scratches + More

    Ep27. Leather Reinforcement Issues. Removing Scratches + More
    Feb 11 2025
    Walsall leather museum petition: https://www.change.org/p/halt-the-proposed-sale-and-closure-of-walsall-leather-museum hello and welcome to the leathercraft masterclass podcast with me Phil and today this podcast is going to be answering some questions that I got recently on the Forum and I'm also going to be discussing uh a couple interesting topics something in the leathercraft news and something that ties in with the previous podcast which in fact I'll just dive straight into that uh interesting interesting remember on the previous podcast I was talking about the infiltration of AI into leathercraft whether it's using AI to make artificial intelligence leathercraft bags sorry I have contact adhesive and a lighter on The Wire there um and how it's kind of infiltrated our craft which is very much a a human very much around a human touch and human creativity and kind of a AR tale be careful what you believe in now I have occasionally get I do get bot comments on the Forum which is really annoying but it's part of having an open Forum where you don't actually have to be a member to read The Forum you need a me to be a member to be uh to post on it which is free to do for anybody um but having an open Forum you are open to bots I mean you see them all the time on things like reddits and and other famous forums but you know you can't get around it recently I've received comments that are very closely resembling a human and what they're doing now instead of just putting spam words that don't make sense and then throwing a link in there from somewhere else because the more your websites linked on on Google the higher the ranking can be that's basically what's happening what they're doing recently is they're using artificial intelligence to answer questions on a forum and they're not posting links or trying to do anything first of all they're like a trojan horse they're making it seem like something real and then later on they're going to start link dumping and it's very subtle and I'm going to read these comments out to you I'm going to read a human one a response to someone's question and I'm going to read an AI one and I'm going to see if you can tell which is which it's very close some of them have been very convincing but it's yeah I'll talk about it afterwards okay so the comments are as follows and I will read I've got both of them open in tabs whichever tab I open first I'll read that one and then uh go to the next one okay so the person's question was the original question a real human being a student in fact I have a question about dying natural leather what should be applied in turn and should the flesh side be died as well okay so that was the human question now I've opened one of the tabs and the first one that I'm going to read I'm not going to tell you if it's human or not put it in the comments below before I actually reveal and see if you got it right okay so Bridget Davies says when dying natural leather start by applying a leather repairer or deglazer to clean and open up the surface then use a leather dye applying thin even layers for consistent color it's not necessary to dye the flesh side unless you want to match the surface color but you can apply a light coat if desired for uniformity okay so AI or human do you think I'm going to read the next comment hello Henry which was the person's name hello Henry If the product you're making doesn't have a lining where you'll see the flesh side you may dye the flesh side too however you will need to seal it well as the contents of the product a bag or a wallet may get some dye rub off the flesh side also absorbs a lot of dye so who do you think of those two replies to the question which one do you think is real and which one do you think is artificial intelligence one of them was me and one of them was AI okay so which do you think was real and which was AI okay so the answer is the second one was me okay so the first one was AI I mean it's since been deleted you can't go and see it obviously when I see see it come up I just get rid of them automatically and you can usually tell because you got a profile picture of this Bridget Davies and they they sign up and then two minutes later they're answering questions with their full name in their Avatar and a a profile picture like a school photo and it's all very there's no mistakes in it it's very a then B then C um and it's subtle but I think a lot of people will be fooled by that but for me I mean it's it it stands out very quickly uh I also in fact I there's a bit that I didn't put in on my one which would give it away which where I said I would start with this blog post I created on dying Leather So I created a blog post called we'll die eventually start today I don't think AI would come up with something like that you know just it just doesn't quite get humor but uh that would have given it away but yeah so I just thought it was interesting I'm not going to go into the matter again I've 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  • Ep26. AI Fakery. Mirror Polished Edges. Bag Linings & Pattern Making Hacks

    Ep26. AI Fakery. Mirror Polished Edges. Bag Linings & Pattern Making Hacks
    Dec 6 2024
    hello and welcome to the leathercraft masterclass with me Phil and in today's podcast I have some juicy and somewhat controversial topics to talk about in the leathercraft world uh I know it's been a while since I did my last podcast and I say that a lot because it's so difficult to fit them in around doing the courses and the editing and and running the business and everything but I try to and uh I found some time let's do a podcast now before we start I realize uh how green I am and for those of you who are listening and wondering what the hell I'm talking about I I've sat down in front of the camera I'm looking at myself in the uh in the screen there and I can say I'm wearing a green top with a green flat cap with uh green leatherbound headphones uh with a green boom arm I've even got green on the microphone luckily I'm backed by red so you know you can see me okay so let's talk about the subjects that I'm going to be discussing today so you can kind of get a feel for what we're going to be talking about a couple of these things have been mentioned to me in the past and some of them I've kind of found online and I thought you know what this would make a great subject to talk about in a podcast uh and a couple of them are from uh Forum members who have asked questions on the Forum and I've thought again you know great subjects for a podcast that I could talk about something that doesn't require you know heavy visuals so at the beginning we had have four main subjects so the beginning is the increased use of AI images in bags on social media something I'm want to discuss the next one is a mirror polish burnish is it worth it the third thing I want to talk about is leather drop in Linings and this was a a question asked by a for member on you know what are they and how to do it and how would you measure for one so this is an alternative something I haven't actually done in the master the class before in the courses uh I'm thinking now it would be high time to actually do or create a bag project with a drop-in lining so that people have those skills but I'll talk about it a bit uh today and lastly how to make durable leather cutting patterns how to make durable leather cutting patterns so when you cut out a leather project obviously we use patterns to cut around or at least Mark before cutting um and if you want something durable that's made of metal or not MDF hard that's great but you need Machinery to cut that out that not many people have the alternative is cardboard however after repeated use it starts to show where and you lose accuracy on it so how can we get around that I've come up with an idea that I've used in the past I thought I'd share today so that you can make something for yourself that will last but you can cut out with a craft knife so let's start at the beginning with the increased use of AI on bags on social media so I remember where I was I was in Egypt at the time and I was I can't remember if I was sitting by the pool or in my hotel room whatever the case I was scrolling through Instagram and I remember scrolling through and seeing this really unusual quite remarkable looking bag and I was kind of studying it and looking at it and thinking wow this is incredible this is amazing I can't believe that someone actually made this it was a really intricate design just the way it was sitting on the desk it looked absolutely Flawless absolutely perfect Too Perfect so I could of did what everyone does when they're studying a new design or something interesting that they've seen something that inspires them kind of zoom in a little bit and take a closer look and I remember thinking that seam doesn't go anywhere that's odd well that Buckle doesn't look quite right the tabs go in the wrong way around and very quickly dawned on me that this image that I'm looking at isn't reality but it is in fact an AI image and I went down to the comments cuz I thought okay people are going to be ripping this apart surely and it was a mixture of wow this is amazing and where can I get this from where can I buy this how much is it like people were genuinely fooled by this and it's only really cuz I'm a a leather Craftsman that I can look at it and go that looks looks too perfect and the Design's off and there's a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense but if you're not used to that and you don't have that kind of knowledge you can see why people will be easily fooled and I think if I remember correctly this account was selling bags that were I did a little bit of digging made in the Far East but they're resellers and they were putting AI images to just kind of get a bit of uh get a bit of attention on on social media so the bags that they were showing that were AI images aren't something that they can make or have made so it was interesting that they were even doing that in the first place and they were I think they were mixing it up with bags that they sell and these perfect AI images so it's probably quite 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  • Ep25. Lies & Misinformation In The Leathergoods Industry

    Ep25. Lies & Misinformation In The Leathergoods Industry
    Jun 24 2023
    Sell Your Leathergoods! Avoid this #1 Costly Mistake. Storytime 🎁Want a FREE course? 👇Are you new to the Leathercraft Masterclass? 👇To get started, claim your video course (& discover the #1 thing every leathercrafter NEEDS to know). Go now and sign up! The video course (instant access) will be in your inbox in UNDER 60 seconds from now! ⏰📥 👉 https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/fineleathercraftcourses I'll see you there, Philip Discover how the online courses can help you and your leathercraft: https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/ Other useful resources: Follow on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/leathercraftmasterclass Read the Blog! https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/blog-1 Follow on Tik Tok! https://www.tiktok.com/@leathercraftmasterclass Follow on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/leathercraftmasterclass so recently I was told something that I think quite possibly could have been just an absolute lie to my face or the person that was giving me the information was just completely misinformed I'll let you guys decide when I tell you the story you can let me know in the comments below what you think uh transpired in this situation but it was a recent visit to London which I go there all the time a lot that you guys know I make videos about it I do a lot on Instagram and stories reels it's a great place to go for inspiration I like to visit a lot of the boutiques pick stuff up handle it have a look at it and just kind of mentally break things down it just gives me great inspiration uh for the creation of leather goods for you guys but there's one thing that I noticed when visiting many of these leather goods boutiques and that is with the sales people that work there sales people love to leverage story and information about the product that generates some kind of emotional connection okay that's part of what selling is for they're there to encourage you to buy so they have to say something and they want you to get that connection but when is telling a story that's just based on fallacy or making things up what you know what is going too far to you guys because story is incredibly powerful in sales there's a great book I'll make a book recommendation I'm getting the habit of doing that is uh story brand great book uh one of my favorites and just shows the impact the the power and importance of story but when is it going too far when the person is just making things up just trying to get that sale and it's almost every Boutique that I go to they will talk about their history The Heritage the provenance and even if they don't tell you anything when you walk in like reason I walked into Hermes and they have some of their vintage uh Saddlery attack you know all the hardware and things hanging from the ceilings and also on walls and talking about the history and vintage photographs you know it works they love it people love that history and when they talk about the products they'll tell you the kind of leather and they will tell you where it comes from and who made it and whether or not it was handmade or hand stitched there's one particular instance recently where I went into a leather goods store and it was an English leather goods maker quite well known I won't say the brand um just to cover myself a little bit but they're famous for making typically English leather goods we're talking attache cases doctors bags briefcases all sorts of bridal leather goodies now recently they've come out with a new line of leather goods it doesn't it has the essence of English leather goods but it's a lot more contemporary it looks like something that um Gucci could have come out with or Vuitton it's it's a little bit more modern a little bit more European in style should I say so I was there and the salesperson comes over to me and we get talking about the leather goods and I don't mention that my maker I'm just you know I'm there just to you know possibly buy something even sometimes I do and I asked about the new range that the this brand has come out with and I I can already tell it's not made in the UK it's just a hunch so I said this new line that you have of Handbags and purses and where are they made because I know you make a lot of it in the UK and he said oh no these are made in Italy using leather from Tuscany I said oh that's interesting good quality leather and he said yes um the main difference between the English leather that we use for some of our other goods and this new range is the new range is tanned in Tuscany which creates a softer leather so I just kind of like nodded and thought Oh really it's kind of encouraging to keep talking and he said yes in fact the reason it's soft is because the climate out there is a lot more humid because English leather is just too dry to make these bags and you just can't get it this soft and it was almost like he was kind of his eyes were wandering trying to kind of bring more stuff out to tell me just to keep the conversation going ...
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  • Ep24. Non Traditional Leathers. Should We Use Them?

    Ep24. Non Traditional Leathers. Should We Use Them?
    Jun 5 2023
    I discuss embracing unusual leathers for your next project. 🎁Want a FREE course? 👇Are you new to the Leathercraft Masterclass? 👇To get started, claim your video course (& discover the #1 thing every leathercrafter NEEDS to know). Go now and sign up! The video course (instant access) will be in your inbox in UNDER 60 seconds from now! ⏰📥 👉 https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/fineleathercraftcourses I'll see you there, Philip Discover how the online courses can help you and your leathercraft: https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/ Other useful resources: Follow on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/leathercraftmasterclass Read the Blog! https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/blog-1 Follow on Tik Tok! https://www.tiktok.com/@leathercraftmasterclass Follow on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/leathercraftmasterclass So today's vodcast or podcast if you're listening to the audio on this is all about using different kinds of leather different kinds of leather than what you're normally used to the normal cow the normal calf Etc in the meantime I'm talking to you from Dahab in Egypt um here on a diving holiday it's a very inspiring place and yesterday I was going through the market and I came across a store and as I normally do when I'm on a holiday vacation I like to stop at any store that sells leather products and this one was a little bit different it was a lot of tan bags a lot of Handbags and cases and things like that I'll show some pictures and I asked what leather that they were using in these bags and the man said to me that it was camel leather I've never seen camel leather before I I know of it but I've never seen it in any of the suppliers that I use any of the websites that I buy from and I thought it'd be really awesome to use some Camel leather in a bag because here camels are used for a multitude of different things from uh travel uh some milk to labor and of course meat and camel meat is quite popular here so naturally there is a byproduct of these skins that are going to be discarded or used for leather so I did try and asked the guy if he had any spare skins but these are kind of pre-made bags in Egypt that he sells but the leather was absolutely beautiful it was very soft to the touch not unlike calf if there was a leather that it was quite close to I'd say calf leather it was a very slight you could see pores in some of them that hadn't been finished which is a little bit like pigskin not exactly like it but kind of similar to it and I thought it'd be really cool to try and get hold of some Camel leather but the guy only sold bags pre-made bags in Egypt um he didn't actually sell the leather itself and I didn't really have time to try and find some is relatively small I think in the grand scheme of things I don't know if they would have a Tannery or leather supplier here but I will endeavor to get someone perhaps use it in the leather craft Master Class courses but I think it's really cool to sometimes use another kind of leather that we're not used to and it doesn't have to be exotic um kangaroo leather comes to mind in fact somebody I forget who now uh messaged me the other day and said something along the lines of uh Nike is dropping kangaroo leather in a lot of their products and replacing it with synthetic options now I did look a little into this I don't know if it's their entire line but I know that they were using camel leather on their football boots or their soccer boots and not camel leather sorry kangaroo leather um but also Puma is doing the same so a lot of the supplies of kangaroo leather and tanneries are rightfully worried as well and I think there's one Adelaide Tannery that is closing down because of it so I'm imagining that Nike and Puma collectively were using up a lot of kangaroo leather and keeping it going and again much like camel leather here kangaroo leather is a byproduct of the meat industry of course you can buy kangaroo I've tasted it myself before it's delicious so not only do I think it's good to diversify the kind of leathers that we use but I also think it's a good idea to support the tanneries that produce more unusual Leathers because the vast majority of leathers that we buy and are used in in pre-made products are going to be cowhide calf sheep lamb so for me I I want to try and include if I can some more unusual Leathers because there are benefits as well for example kangaroo leather is extremely strong a very very high tensile strength so if you want to use something that is similar in some ways and from what I've seen to Goat but you really want that extra strength kangaroo leather is fantastic camel leather stronger than cowhide as well I'm not sure I've heard anywhere from three to five times stronger and I don't know how they're measuring that but it seems to be an extremely tough skin which makes sense because it's an extremely durable hard wearing animal itself so I kind of wanted to ask you guys what unusual ...
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  • Ep23. Did Hermès Copy LV? My Best Q&A Questions Ever!

    Ep23. Did Hermès Copy LV? My Best Q&A Questions Ever!
    Apr 24 2023

    Is The MOST Copied Bag Actually A COPY? Plus, I share my thoughts on the future of leathercraft, tips for getting better at skiving, the best pattern design tools and much, much more!

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  • Ep22. Luxury Disconnect. Asking YOU My Most Controversial Question

    Ep22. Luxury Disconnect. Asking YOU My Most Controversial Question
    Mar 23 2023
    I discuss the 'luxury disconnect' and ask YOU a controversial question. 🎁Want a FREE course? 👇Are you new to the Leathercraft Masterclass? 👇To get started, claim your video course (& discover the #1 thing every leathercrafter NEEDS to know). Go now and sign up! The video course (instant access) will be in your inbox in UNDER 60 seconds from now! ⏰📥 👉 https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/fineleathercraftcourses I'll see you there, Philip Discover how the online courses can help you and your leathercraft: https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/ Other useful resources: Follow on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/leathercraftmasterclass Read the Blog! https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/blog-1 Follow on Tik Tok! https://www.tiktok.com/@leathercraftmasterclass Follow on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/leathercraftmasterclass Show notes: So a woman walks into a luxury leather good shop she walks around and Marvels and all the beautiful skins and exotic leather handbags that she sees and while she's walking around the store she looks into the corner of the store and sees the most beautiful leather handbag that she's ever seen exotic leather crocodile skin Gold Hardware the lot the most Exquisite design so she walks over to investigate a little bit further and as she reaches over the table to grab the bag she lets out a loud fart absolutely mortified she's praying that nobody heard so she looks over to her left and there's nobody there and she looks over to her right and there materializes her worst nightmare a sales assistant who was standing there the entire time now at this point she's oh Beyond praying hoping that he didn't hear what she did so first of all he says hello Madam how can I help you today and she kind of mumbles I I just wanted to to see this handbag and and see how much it cost um Adam I could tell you the price but uh if you farted by merely touching the handle you're gonna [ __ ] when I tell you the price oh terrible terrible terrible joke um it's the only luxury joke I know so I thought I'd start out with that actually no it's not the only luxury joke I know I do know another one and I you know what I'll tell you closer to the end of the podcast if you're that interested in hearing it okay so what's this podcast about what am I talking about today what am I going to be taking you through so as some of you know on my Instagram and indeed on my YouTube channel if you've been watching my stories and my shorts and things like that you may occasionally see me going up to London which is only about half an hour no about an hour away from me here in Kent and uh I love going doing a little bit of shopping in London but also visiting some of the luxury stores in the high-end stores like Harrods and selfridges and you know walking down new Bond Street and seeing some of the beautiful boutiques that they have there indeed in my last podcast and vodcast I talked about my visit to pick at London and Swain Edney Brigg but something that I get and I'm not there that often maybe you know a handful of times a year but something I get I get a lot of people saying you know it was great to follow you along it's great to see all that stuff and you know all the luxury Brands and all their Glory but there is not a small minority of people that love to how can I put this politely mock the idea of luxury Brands uh expensive Exquisite items and I always talk about how it's not worth the price uh people that can buy those have got more money than cents uh wealthy people can't buy taste and all that kind of thing and I guess this is I guess you could call it kind of a pushback podcast in a sense on on that mentality to some extent yeah there are Brands out there that charge ridiculous prices for what you're getting especially ones that increase their prices a huge amount every year Chanel comes to mind if you look at some of their most famous bags now compared to just a few years ago the prices pretty much doubled but you're getting the same thing you know it's um they're playing a game and it's it's ridiculous but that is an exception to the rule I think there are a lot of great luxury brands that are producing Exquisite items for a very high price and I think sometimes and we can all be guilty of this we can't appreciate what we don't fully understand and this podcast is all about why that is but also how we can understand luxury a little bit better because some of us produce luxury leather goods or find other goods for as a brand as a full-time job as a part-time work to complement your day job and some people have aspirations to produce luxury leather goods in order to to sell so I think it's very good for us all to learn how to appreciate luxury and not just in the sense of leather goods but as a concept so I want to cut I want to start out with a question and I guess it could be seen as a controversial question but I'm going to ask it anyway but if you don't like the answer do ...
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  • Ep21. Leather Goods Hunting In The Poshest Parts Of London!

    Ep21. Leather Goods Hunting In The Poshest Parts Of London!
    Feb 26 2023

    Join me in London as I share my experience visiting two great leather goods makers. Who's the best in London? Grab yourself a cup of tea or coffee, settle down and press play.

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  • Ep20. How To 'Skive' Stingray, Reverse Pricking Irons & Leather Burnishing

    Ep20. How To 'Skive' Stingray, Reverse Pricking Irons & Leather Burnishing
    May 3 2022
    Note: The demonstration at end of this podcast can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/v6lNt2Ltyh8?t=1397 1:36 Can you skive stingray skin? 4:41 How to sell leatherwork to customers without being too technical? 10:51 What are reverse pricking irons? DO I need them? 15:55 Tips on how to use a leather awl. What mistakes should I avoid? 22:41 How to cut a belt end without a punch (English point). 28:30 How to burnish leather with your BARE HANDS! How to make a 'pinkie loop' for an awl: https://youtu.be/-OO-M_M6FLs ☝️Are you new to the Leathercraft Masterclass? 👇To get started, visit https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/fineleathercraftcourses and claim your FREE leather & tool buying guides! (instant access) 🤔What's in the free guides?🎁A FREE full length course teaching you how to select the finest leathers and skins, so you can stop wasting time and money, which means you can confidently buy the best leather for your project. BONUS🎁: A completely FREE 20 page article sharing information about what TOOLS YOU NEED to get started, as well as which tools you should invest in later on. Go now and sign up! The FREE leather guide AND tool guide could be in your inbox in UNDER 60 seconds from now! ⏰📥🎁 I'll see you there, Philip Discover how the online courses can help you and your leathercraft: https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/ Other useful resources: Follow on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/leathercraftmasterclass Read the Blog! https://www.leathercraftmasterclass.com/blog-1 Follow on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/leathercraftmasterclass hello and welcome to this month's q a session with me phil and in this month like always i'm going to be taking questions from instagram live and i've also been sent through a series of questions which i'll name off in just a second but before i do that don't forget to follow me at leathercraftmasterclass on instagram where there's tons more content that you're missing out on here so don't forget to go over there and give me a follow on there too so what questions do i have in store for you guys today well number one we have a question on stingray skin we also have a question on presenting products to customers in way they understand reverse pricking irons tips for beginners on all use and also how to cut an english point on the end of your belt or strap without using an english point cutter okay like one of these punches here so i'm going to be giving a demonstration on how you can do that in your workshop without having that particular tool where you can get just as good results but also you can change the angles and play around with the shapes so i'm going to give you a demonstration on how to do that but i'm also going to have a little bit of fun and show you how to burnish with nothing more than your hand so without further ado we're gonna go live on instagram take some live questions as well and then we'll be going through these main ones don't forget if you want to get your questions in you guys on youtube on instagram every month i take questions in the stories so you can dm them to me or you can send them through when the story sticker okay so let's go live and take it from there all right so without further ado let's get started on april's q a so question number one is is it possible to skive stingray okay is it possible to skive stingray skin so what is stingray skin it could be of a series of fish even shark could be called stingray at times or shower green but they all possess similar qualities which you have these small circular beads uh almost like bone across the surface it's very distinctive there's nothing else quite like it in the the world of skin and leather and underneath you have a fibrous layer so there's the two main layers is your firm hard layer on the top and a fibrous layer and the top layer is made from enamel and dentine okay very similar to teeth in that sense and you can buy unsanded which is more spherical on the surface very interesting texture and you can buy it sanded which opens up a very different unique look to it and flattens out the surface as well so the person here is asking is it possible to skive stingray now normally skiving you're using something like this skiving skins and leather using a skiving knife now if you've tried to do that with uh stingray skin you would instantly blunt your knife doesn't matter what kind of super steel powdered steel that you're working with it's going to be the edge that you had okay because it's so hard and so tough it just strips the edge of almost anything so it's not possible to really skive stingray you could for example skive the underneath the fibrous layer but that's the foundation for the pearls that sit on top so if you skive that away they're just going to start falling apart and you'll have no strength and that's not what you want now what you can do is use a drum sander now you can use a regular drum sander or if you want a bit more detail you ...
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