Lily and Nolan open to discuss methods to improve well-being after quitting, emphasizing the importance of slowing down and staying present, including a focus on withdrawals and tapping into ideas found in yoga. In the interview, Jacob sits down with Seth, who shares his journey of overcoming kratom addiction. Seth talks about emotional challenges and his experiences with treatment centers, as well as his ultimate decision to use buprenorphine and its impact on his recovery. They also touch upon the importance of a support system, Seth's hobbies, and his advice for others battling addiction.

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In the intro, Jacob talks about the importance of a positivity mindset. In the interview, Lily chats with James K., a professional cameraman from San Diego. He initially believed kratom to be a natural remedy, but it led to severe addiction alongside struggles with alcohol, marijuana, and opiates. He found kratom to involve intense withdrawals and found therapy and a healthy lifestyle key in sustaining his recovery.

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Lily and Nolan talk about sleep issues in the weeks after you quit kratom.

NOTE: Jen and Matt are living in FEMA temporary housing post a Florida disaster and have a pop-up emergency internet connection, which caused audio issues in the interview recording. We did the best we could to improve the quality but there are several spots were the guests fade out a little, so please accept our apologies.

This week, a couple discuss their quitting journey with Jacob. Born in the 1960s, Matt and Jen both turned to kratom to get off of stronger prescription and street drugs. About 13 years ago, Matt ALMOST (this was one of the audio snafus) lost his leg during a surgery and was prescribed fentanyl patches for pain. Later using kratom as a ramp off and a substitute to such pharmaceuticals, Matt was up to 60g of powder a day and then switched to extracts as he could not stomach kratom powder anymore. After many relapses trying to quit kratom and other drugs, they both decided to try Medicated Assisted Treatment (MAT) in January 2023. Matt plans to taper off buprenorphine with the injectable option known as Sublocade this year. Despite many tough times, including the losses of a pet, car and home, they successfully interrupted their kratom addiction, and have not become dependent again over the last couple years. Matt warns against the use of 7ohm based on a week of him turning to this kratom alkaloid isolate product when he was out-of-town without buprenorphine.

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Lily and Jacob open discussing the dubiousness of kratom product marketing. In the interview, Dylan has been off kratom since August 2024, after almost an average 20g per day habit over almost a decade. Despite lingering PAWS, Dylan's life has become much richer since quitting.

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Nolan interviews expert guest Eli Cohen, a personal injury attorney at the Wetherington Law Firm in Atlanta, Georgia. Eli specializes in product liability and kratom-related wrongful death cases. A former SWAT officer and current Army Reserve intelligence officer, he brings over 17 years of combined legal and law enforcement experience to his advocacy for consumer safety. In this episode, Eli discusses the lack of federal regulation around kratom, the misleading use of “not for human consumption” labeling, and the legal strategies used to hold manufacturers accountable for harm. He offers his cell number at 470-880-8222. https://wfirm.com/attorney/eli-cohen/

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Nolan and Libby in the open discuss the subtle things we gain back after quitting kratom. Jasmine aka Jazzy celebrates a year off kratom with us in the interview. Find more support at www.kratomquitters.com

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Lily speaks with Jacob about joining as a co-host along with our other hosts. Charlie interviews Kristen and her journey through several relapses and failed attempts at using MAT to quit kratom. Serving kratom at her wedding, Kristen found herself going through withdrawals for the first time during her honeymoon. But it took a while for her to get to the three-month mark kratom free, and she now has a path forward to maintain both kratom and alcohol abstinence.

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Jacob and Dr. Grover answer FAQ from kratom quitters about medicated assisted treatment and talks about the need to fight social and self-imposed stigma related to addiction.

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