This week's guest Bob from Philly talks with Charlie about his disordered use of kratom extracts escalating to 7-OH over a period of three years. He said it was the only substance he had to go "get more" when it ran out. Bob quit cold turkey with the help of faith and music, and is trying to retrain his brain to do activities he used to mostly enjoy by loading up on kratom. Shout out to his auto mechanic buddy - they listen to the podcast every Monday and discuss (thanks!).

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Jazz and Lauren discuss seeing new products at random local stores and the importance of community in recovery. Aaron talks about his struggles to quit, which often involved starting and restarting cycles months at a time. He also escalated over the years from powder to 7-OH until he quit around Valentines 2025.

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John G. first appeared on episode 55 in 2024. He relapsed and struggled to get back on track until February 2025. However, he returns celebrating a year now off kratom.

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Lily & Rosa in the open discuss Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing (EMDR) as treatment option for those struggling with trauma. Rosa interviews Jack, a 33-year-old miner from Nevada who developed a severe dependence on kava-kratom drinks after struggling with addiction throughout his life. After years of denial and hiding his use, he quit by telling his loved ones and pushing through an intense six-day withdrawal. Jack now relies on healthier habits like working out and focusing on honesty and accountability.

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Lauren and Jacob discuss consequences. PLEASE excuse some audio issues in the open, the original recording got corrupted and we did our best to rescue it.

Tiffany shares her harrowing journey from kratom addiction to one year of sobriety, detailing how what started as a "plant supplement" for anxiety quickly spiraled into round-the-clock dependence and a near-death experience. After enduring multiple detox attempts, inpatient treatment, a custody battle, and job loss, she found freedom through community support, faith, and pure determination. Now running a juice bar and rebuilding her life, Tiffany offers hope to anyone struggling with kratom, proving that recovery is possible and that life on the other side is better than one can imagine.

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Lauren shares her journey from kratom and 7-OH addiction to one year of sobriety, detailing how what started as pain management spiraled into spending hundreds of dollars daily on extracts and tablets. After hitting rock bottom with car accidents, job loss, and a hospital intervention, she found recovery through AA meetings, running, and the support of her family and fiancé.

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Lily celebrates three years off kratom in the open!

Joey was on episode #9 in June 2023. He returns to discuss relapse prevention, to talk about using naltrexone (both oral and injection to quit) and to warn about the escalation to 7-OH.

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