Andy, Jörg and Leah talk about a heavy theological idea: Original Sin. Does it help us understand the world, God and ourselves? Is it actively unhelpful? Should we think of ourselves as terrible people who construct all the evil in the world, or as innocent bystanders who are under God's curse?

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Leah reflects on the passage in Luke 10 where Martha complains that Mary has left her to do all the work, and wonders how the story might have continued.

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Andy reads a prayer from 2022 that encourages empathy and sharing between people rich and poor in financial and spiritual terms.

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Andy reads a prayer from 2009 which includes prayer for people going through divorce and other types of relationship breakdown.

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Andy reads a poem about a rare spiritual experience(!)

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Andy reads a prayer from way back in 2014 that talks about conflict, building, resisting sexual violence, and a longing for God.

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Andy reads a prayer he wrote in 2023 that concludes with a request for us to learn companionship with people considered beneath contempt, to learn with and from people who are different and make us uncomfortable. As may be a familiar feeling now, there was a lot of war happening in the world at the time, and the prayer starts with lots of asking for peace and reconciliation.

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Andy, Leah and Jörg talk to Bethany, whose personal encounters in Palestine and Israel led to academic study, giving her a rare depth of insight which she brings to her introduction to the history of the devastating conflict in this region. The group tries to engage with how to respond as people who are collectively implicated in the mistakes of the past and largely powerless as individuals in the present.

This is part 2 of the conversation.

Apologies for the background noise of traffic and aeroplanes.

You can find Bethany's research about the encounters between volunteers and Palestinians at https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/view/people/Elce=3ABethany=3A=3A.html

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