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What if church unity isn't about everyone agreeing, but about choosing humility and crossing the chasms that divide us?

In this candid conversation, hosts Johan Heinrichs and Wendi Park reflect on Dave Witt’s insights around trust, apathy, and the real cost of indifference among faith communities. They explore how genuine unity and reconciliation require more than polite coexistence—they demand intentional risk, honest conversations, and a willingness to serve outside our familiar circles. Through relatable stories, practical ideas, and references to collaborative efforts like CarePortal, this episode inspires listeners to rethink what it means to be the “Church” in their community and challenges us all to replace indifference with connection and courage.

[00:00] "The Cost of Indifference"

[04:48] "Building Trust Among Churches"

[09:46] Unity Enhances Worship and Witness

[12:49] Bridging Denominational Divides

[13:52] "Building Unity Amidst Differences"

[18:55] "Conversations Beyond Indifference"

[21:26] Nationwide Training for Churches & Camps

[20:20] Attachment Styles Explained

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What if unity in the Body of Christ is not optional, but inevitable?

Hosts Johan Heinrichs and Wendi Park sit down with Dr. Dave Witt to dig into what true unity requires—including the cost of indifference and the power of trust between congregations. Drawing on Dr. Witt’s experience with the TrueCity church network in Hamilton and his research on church relationships, the conversation unpacks why honest collaboration across differences is vital for our witness and worship. Listeners are challenged to move beyond silos, embracing practical steps toward reconciliation, trust, and lasting impact in their communities.

[00:00] Unity: An Inevitable Calling

[05:57] "TrueCity: Churches United for Good"

[09:45] Exploring Trust in Church Collaborations

[12:35] "Choosing Trust Over Indifference"

[14:29] Process of Achieving Church Unity

[17:41] Pursuing Unity with Spiritual Humility

[21:27] Building Trust Between Congregations

[27:03] Value Inter-Congregational Connections

[29:35] Care Lingo

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What does it look like to let go of sacred spaces when they become sacred cows holding us back from true community?

Wendi Park and Johan Heinrichs reflect on their conversation with Erin Oxford, digging into the tension between presence and programming, buildings and relationships, and how our resources can either empower or entrench our ministry efforts. They share honest stories of surrendering physical spaces—whether a church building or a grand ministry centre—to refocus on relational impact and spiritual formation together. From the need for vulnerability in leadership to the surprising blessings found in mutuality with those we serve, this conversation challenges the church to reimagine how we steward what we have and who we are for the good of our neighbours.

[00:00] "See Beyond Labels"

[04:49] "Embracing Vulnerability in Ministry"

[06:23] "Balancing Family and Ministry"

[10:49] Community Support and Sacrifice

[13:33] "Trusting Intuition Over Buildings"

[18:47] "Fasting from Busyness"

[20:13] "Dream Room: Community Visionary Space"

[23:02] CareLingo: Voluntourism

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