In this episode, we have our first guest! Gabe & Katie got to sit down with John Onwuchekwa to talk about his background in vocational ministry, serial entrepreneurship, and what ministry can look like for the rest of us. In our conversation, we discussed more about the nuance in understanding the distinction between “vocation” and “calling” and how that can play out in our lives.

Dive into this conversation with us where we go a little deeper in exploring what “ministry” means, what it can look like for everyday believers in our lives. Also, this episode was filmed in the middle of real life and wound up with a couple more un-fixable background sounds. We appreciate your grace with us in that, and look forward to hearing your thoughts on what resonates with you from this episode!

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Guest: Dr. John Onwuchekwa

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

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You can purchase John’s book he wrote on finding meaning in what God is doing through grief, We Go On here: www.johno.co/books - check it out!

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