As CEO challenges go, facing a global threat that is existential not just for your company but for your industry is among the worst possible. American Airlines’ former Chairman and CEO, Doug Parker, has been through this twice while leading an airline, following the 9/11 attacks in New York and the COVID-19 pandemic. In this episode, he speaks with McKinsey Senior Partner Celia Huber about how these experiences helped him become a better leader.

Doug Parker has served as CEO of three airlines: America West, US Airways, and American Airlines. He currently serves on the board of Qantas. Celia Huber is a McKinsey senior partner in our Bay Area office, where she leads our board services work in North America.

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Holistic transformations are complex and can take a long time to show full results. By optimizing working capital early on, companies can help score early wins to create momentum and excite stakeholders across the organization. In this episode, Sean talks with two McKinsey transformation experts about how to identify and achieve these working capital improvements to maximize the impact of a transformation.

Jacob Rüden is a partner in our Transformation Practice, based in Cologne, and he leads our cash excellence work globally. He has more than 20 years of experience serving clients in transformation and on cash and working capital engagements across sectors, including automotive, energy, chemicals, transportation, consumer goods, and retail. And Marvin Denis is an expert in our Transformation Practice, based in New York. He's a core member of our cash excellence service line and co-leader of our cash solutions globally. He works across sectors, including automotive, chemicals, consumer goods, and retail.

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John Stankey has led AT&T as CEO since July 2020, and was elected Chairman of the Board in February this year. Over his 40-year tenure, John has held multiple senior leadership roles across the breadth of AT&T’s businesses, including turns as Chief Strategy Officer and Chief Technology Officer.

In this episode, John speaks with McKinsey senior partner and North America Chair Eric Kutcher about his journey at AT&T. They discuss how John pivoted the portfolio, how he trusted in long-term ‘big bets’ amidst the current wave of economic change, and the meaning of leaving a legacy at a 150-year-old company.

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For many years, the continued rise of private markets has been defined by assets under management (AUM), while the composition of the industry evolved significantly. This week, two of McKinsey’s Private Capital Practice experts are joined by Neil Mehta from Apollo Global Management to discuss the diverse types of non-traditional private capital increasingly being raised by general partners (GPs), and how asset managers will need to continue to adapt to meet this growing complexity and the variety of needs that their investors are looking to them to solve.

McKinsey Senior Partner Alexander Edlich is a senior leader in McKinsey’s Private Capital Practice, and is based in New York. He’s the lead author of our 2025 Global Private Markets Review, and has more than two decades of experience advising financial services firms, including alternative asset managers and investors, on how to address ever-changing industry dynamics. McKinsey Partner Paul Maia co-leads McKinsey’s work on advising the C-suite of private capital GPs, as well as the private capital arms of institutional investors, and is based in Washington, D.C. Neil Mehta is a partner and global head of new markets at Apollo Global Management in New York, where he is responsible for driving growth into markets that have historically had limited exposure to private assets, including traditional asset management, defined contribution, and tax advantage strategies. Neil is also a member of Apollo’s leadership team.

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Although every company wants to grow, only one in four is able to do so profitably and maintain that growth over time. This week, Sean speaks with three of our growth experts about the mindsets and behaviors of successful growth outperformers.

Jill Zucker is a senior partner and former managing partner of our New York office. She co-leads our global growth transformation work and serves financial services firms, including wealth managers, asset managers, insurance companies, global banks, and private equity. Rebecca Doherty is a partner in our Bay Area office and co-leader of our global Strategic Growth and Innovation Practice. She works with healthcare, industrial, and technology clients to define and execute value-creating growth road maps. Kate Siegel is a partner in our Detroit office and a leader in our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice. She counsels CEOs and executive teams to develop holistic growth strategies, pursue organic and inorganic M&A, and attain profitable growth aspirations.

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Transformation is a complex undertaking that relies heavily on achieving behavioral change within an organization. Three McKinsey transformation and organizational health experts talk this week about the common pitfalls companies face when attempting to transform, and share tips for avoiding them.

Rajesh Krishnan is a senior partner in our New York office and a leader in our Transformation Practice. He counsels clients on identifying and delivering transformative and sustainable performance improvements, and is a founder of our capability building solution, the Ability to Execute or A2E. Tiffany Vogel is a partner in our Miami office, and is an expert in change management, leadership development, and agile product development. She focuses on financial institutions and state governments, and also serves on the faculty at the University of Southern California Marshall School of Business. And Matthew Schrimper is an associate partner in our Boston office. He helps clients improve performance through organizational change, and has expertise in large-scale transformations, culture and change management, as well as talent and operating model design.

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In this episode, Michèle Flournoy joins Andy West to share her perspectives on how companies can build their geopolitical resilience. Michèle is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of WestExec Advisors, a strategic advisory firm that helps CEOs and investors navigate geopolitical risks and opportunities. She served the US government as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy from February 2009 to 2012 and was the principal advisor to the Secretary of Defense. In January 2007, Michèle co-founded the Center for a New American Security – a bipartisan think tank dedicated to developing strong, pragmatic, and principled national security policies. She served as its President until 2009, returned as CEO in 2014, and today serves as the Chair. Andy West is a senior partner and the global coleader of our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice. Comments and opinions expressed by interviewees are their own and do not represent or reflect the opinions, policies, or positions of McKinsey & Company or have its endorsement.

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David Gitlin is Chairman and CEO of Carrier Global Corporation, a global leader in intelligent climate and energy solutions. With prior senior leadership roles in aerospace and manufacturing and extensive expertise across safety and operational excellence, David led the much-lauded 2020 Carrier spin-off from United Technologies—as the world grappled with the COVID-19 pandemic. In this episode, McKinsey senior partner and North America Chair, Eric Kutcher, talks with David about his journey as a CEO during a crisis, and explores his insights on rallying leadership, the board, and 50,000 employees across 160 countries to excel in their roles.

This podcast was recorded on March 31, 2025.

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