In our 50s, we both were dealing with the loss of our mothers. We both had major surgeries. We both went to therapy. And we both made life-altering decisions.

Tracy was fired after 29 years, went through a divorce, and had to decide who she wanted to be next.

Shannon quietly started therapy, asked for a divorce, traveled alone, and began building a completely new life.

We talk about grief, reinvention, later-in-life love, and the strange realization that 50 isn't an ending. It's often an awakening. We also share what we'd tell our 50-year-old selves now: Don't take it all so seriously. Be brave. It's going to work out.

Plus, a Lemon Tarragon Chicken Salad and a strong cocktail called the Thunderclap.

If you're in your 50s, or headed there, this one's for you.

Chef Shannon's Recipe: Lemon Tarragon Chicken Salad

In this episode, Tracy and Shannon talk about temperaments—how they're wired differently, how that wiring shows up when tension hits, and why they've stopped calling it "fighting" and started calling it what it really is: squabbling. They unpack how past experiences, insecurities, and nervous systems collide, what actually causes conflict, and how learning each other's temperament has helped them repair faster, argue cleaner, and stay connected even when things get messy.

Chef Shannon's Recipe: Spaghetti with Lemon Basil Sauce

In this Valentine's Day episode, Tracy and Shannon reflect on how love has evolved over time and why it feels different now. From childhood Valentine's boxes, Love's Baby Soft perfume, and school carnations to Valentine's brunch at the Plaza Hotel in New York City, they revisit the memories that once shaped their view of love. They share what Valentine's Day looks like today: quiet dinners at home, handwritten notes, flowers given a week early, and a love that feels practical, appreciated, and safe.