When police entered the home of Billie Payne and Billy Jean Hayworth, they found a scene of horror: both parents had been shot, but their infant son was found alive and unharmed in his mother's arms. This episode dives into the proxy violence used by the perpetrator to exact revenge. We break down the 'CIA' emails sent to third parties to incite them to violence and discuss the psychological dynamics of the family that allowed such a transparent lie to take root

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Have you considered counseling in the past but weren't sure? Are you confused about when might be a good time to see someone? Are you interested in 'preventative maintenance' in your relationship but just aren't decided? Check this episode for more information on why, when, and how some people choose to pursue a therapist

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

We investigate the ongoing developments in the death of Megan Trussell. Three years after she was found dead in Grand County, the CBI has taken the lead in a comprehensive statutory case review. This episode examines the evidence that prompted the CBI Director to approve this independent look and the specific mandates of the Colorado Cold Case Review team. We highlight the power of family persistence in the face of tragedy and the vital importance of having a 'second set of eyes' on cases that have gone cold or remain shrouded in doubt.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.