This is Part II of the intriguing interview with Author, Coach and top endurance athlete Matt Fitzgerald on the subject of Chasing Mastery. If you missed Part I, it is available via any podcast app as the episode preceeding this one. While you'll love this discussion, you might love it even more if you tap into Part I first :-)

You can access Matt Fitzgerald's latest book Chasing Mastery here (and his classic Ironwar mentioned during the interview here).

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Mastery. What does that encompass when it comes to our health, wellness & performance? How does mindset, consistency and growth affect it? What are the keys to making it a reality? In this discussion with renowned endurance sports author, coach and elite athlete, we’ll unpack the concept of mastery: how it's developed, what holds athletes back, and why the pursuit itself can be more fulfilling than the finish line. Whether you're a coach, an athlete, or simply someone striving to improve, this conversation will challenge and inspire you to think differently about progress.

If you’ve been tuning into The Coaching Lab podcast for long, you know Matt is one of a small handful of returning guests for a reason. Matt is the author of numerous bestselling books on running, training, and the mental side of sport, including his latest work, Chasing Mastery. With decades of experience in the endurance world, Matt brings a unique blend of science, storytelling, and real-world insight to help athletes unlock their full potential. Get ready for a deep dive into what it really takes to pursue mastery in sport and life.

You can access Matt Fitzgerald's latest book Chasing Mastery here (and his classic Ironwar mentioned during the interview here).

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This special episode looks at specific (and practical) strategies for unlocking peak potential. It is based on the opening keynote presentation from Dr. Cooper at a conference in Colorado.

Link to article resources mentioned in presentation available here

Link to episode expanding on how to create a clear personal vision avail here

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Midlife. For some, the word alone is enough to send shivers down the spine. It’s a time of challenge, change and potential confusion. Or – if you believe the perspective of today’s guest, Chip Conley, the beginning of the very best parts of our lives!

Joining us today is Chip Conley, a true visionary in leadership, aging, and personal reinvention. Chip made his mark as the founder one of the largest boutique hotel brands in the U.S. before making a surprising career pivot—becoming Airbnb’s Modern Elder and helping to guide the company through its explosive growth. He then went on to launch the Modern Elder Academy (MEA), the world's first midlife wisdom school, designed to help people navigate transitions with purpose, resilience, and a renewed sense of possibility.

His latest book, Learning to Love Midlife: 12 Reasons Why Life Gets Better with Age, challenges the outdated myths of aging and reveals the science-backed benefits of embracing midlife as a time of growth, wisdom, and fulfillment. In today’s conversation, we’ll dive into why midlife is not a crisis but an opportunity, how we can redefine success and purpose in our second half of life, and why aging can actually be an advantage, not a limitation.

Chip’s insights are not just inspiring—they’re practical, research-backed, and deeply relevant for anyone looking to thrive in midlife and beyond. So whether you’re navigating a personal transition, coaching others through life’s big shifts, or simply curious about what’s ahead, this episode is packed with wisdom you won’t want to miss.

You can access Chip's books via this link and access Dr. Cooper's freely available Not Done Yet! article series on how to unlock life's 2nd half via this link.

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Midlife. For some, the word alone is enough to send shivers down the spine. It’s a time of challenge, change and potential confusion. Or – if you believe the perspective of today’s guest, Chip Conley, the beginning of the very best parts of our lives!

Joining us today is Chip Conley, a true visionary in leadership, aging, and personal reinvention. Chip made his mark as the founder one of the largest boutique hotel brands in the U.S. before making a surprising career pivot—becoming Airbnb’s Modern Elder and helping to guide the company through its explosive growth. He then went on to launch the Modern Elder Academy (MEA), the world's first midlife wisdom school, designed to help people navigate transitions with purpose, resilience, and a renewed sense of possibility.

His latest book, Learning to Love Midlife: 12 Reasons Why Life Gets Better with Age, challenges the outdated myths of aging and reveals the science-backed benefits of embracing midlife as a time of growth, wisdom, and fulfillment. In today’s conversation, we’ll dive into why midlife is not a crisis but an opportunity, how we can redefine success and purpose in our second half of life, and why aging can actually be an advantage, not a limitation.

Chip’s insights are not just inspiring—they’re practical, research-backed, and deeply relevant for anyone looking to thrive in midlife and beyond. So whether you’re navigating a personal transition, coaching others through life’s big shifts, or simply curious about what’s ahead, this episode is packed with wisdom you won’t want to miss.

You can access Chip's books via this link and access Dr. Cooper's freely available Not Done Yet! article series on how to unlock life's 2nd half via this link.

Info re earning your health & wellness coaching certification, annual Rocky Mountain Coaching Retreat & Symposium & more via https://www.catalystcoachinginstitute.com/

Best-in-class coaching for Employers, EAPs & wellness providers https://catalystcoaching360.com/

Tap into the home of the (freely available) Not Done Yet! articles on unlocking life's 2nd half here.

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Welcome back to Part II of the interview with Dr. Alex Hutchinson, author of the fascinating new book - The Explorer's Gene: Why we seek big challenges, new flavors, and the blank spots on the map. You can find his book at AlexHutchinson.net

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Exploration. The search for the unknown has shaped the history of our species, molding our behavior in ways we are only beginning to understand. And that understanding is about to come into focus for us today, thanks to today’s guest, best-selling author and one of my favorite writers, Dr. Alex Hutchinson. Alex is well known, both for his popular Outside Magazine columns on the topic of sweat science, and his exceptional book Endure: Mind, Body and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance. His book influenced the direction I took with my own PhD work. He first joined us waaaay back in 2019 – one of our first 20 episodes ever recorded – which now number over 350. He brings a fascinating background as an elite runner, a PhD in Physics and is basically who I want to be when I grow up – except he’s a decade younger than me.

You’re going to love this discussion. SO many insights covering our draw toward exploration and what it means for high performance and life. I got a chance to read an early release of his new book: The Explorer’s Gene – and it is outstanding. I’ve underlined and scribbled all over it, which is a good sign. We’ll have a link to it in the show notes.

You can find his new book, along with other valuable resources on his website at AlexHutchinson.net

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Let's talk sleep! In this episode, Dr. Cooper walks through 20 specific strategies to a better night's sleep, including evidence based practices, tips from top researchers, and some tweaks he's playing with in his own sleep.

To access prior interviews with sleep physicians, researchers and authors, please see this link.

To access a written (article) version of this episode for reference, please see this link.

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