In this powerful leadership conversation, Anne Chow joins the Badass Leaders Podcast to discuss her book Leading Bigger: The Transformative Power of Inclusion and what it truly means to lead with courage, clarity, and conviction.

Drawing from more than 30 years of executive leadership experience, Anne shares how inclusive leadership drives performance, why culture is a company’s ultimate competitive advantage, and how leaders can avoid the trap of “leading small.” This episode explores practical strategies for building high-performing teams, navigating toxic work environments, protecting your people, and aligning purpose with values.

If you are a CEO, executive, manager, entrepreneur, or emerging leader, this conversation will challenge how you think about culture, accountability, and what it takes to create sustainable success.

This condensed re-release highlights the most impactful moments from the original Season 1 conversation, with a link to the full episode available in the description.

Learn More About Anne Chow:

• Anne’s full episode: https://youtu.be/JrgdCCOwkG0
• Lead Bigger: https://www.theannechow.com/lead-bigger/

About Us
Produced by: The AGN Group

Host: Angela Gill Nelms

Producer: Katie Hart

Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.

Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com

About The AGN Group:

At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.

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The discussion also tackles questions…

• What does it actually mean to “lead bigger”?
• How does inclusive leadership improve business performance?
• What are the risks of leading small?
• How do you protect your team from toxic behavior?
• Should you ever fire a client or customer?
• How do you build a culture rooted in respect instead of fear?
• What’s the difference between core values and aspirational values?
• How do you lead in a toxic corporate culture without losing yourself?
• Why does company culture determine the success or failure of mergers and acquisitions?
• How can leaders create psychological safety without lowering standards?
• How do generational differences impact leadership styles?
• How do you align personal values with professional leadership?

Key Takeaways:

• Inclusive Leadership as a Performance Strategy
• Leading Bigger vs. Leading Small
• Culture as a Competitive Advantage
• Core Values vs. Aspirational Values
• Psychological Safety and Accountability
• Protecting Your Team
• Firing Customers Who Violate Your Values
• Navigating Toxic Corporate Environments
• Vulnerability and Leadership Growth
• Generational Shifts in the Workplace
• Purpose-Driven Leadership
• Building Teams That Thrive, Not Just Survive

In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, host Angela Gill Nelms sits down with Catharine Young, a scientist, immigrant, and global health leader who has worked at the highest levels of government and international collaboration.

Catharine shares her journey from growing up in post-apartheid South Africa to serving in the White House on the Cancer Moonshot, and now leading efforts to close the cancer care gap in low- and middle-income countries. The conversation explores how systems change actually happens, why early cancer detection is one of the most powerful levers for saving lives, and what it takes to lead boldly inside bureaucratic institutions.

Learn More About Catharine Young:

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/catharine-young-ph-d-25959148/
• https://x.com/DrCatharineY
• https://alphapodcast.studio
  
  

Mentioned in this Episode:

• The Cancer Moonshot (U.S. and global initiatives)
• www.gcf.finance
• The Dash Poem: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/the-dash-poem-by-linda-ellis/

Similar Episodes:

• Brain Cancer Breakthrough to $100M Medical Device: https://youtu.be/ex1hDKRPrxg
• Why Diversity Drives Better Healthcare Innovation: https://youtu.be/lrFVN8oN0g0

Produced by: The AGN Group

Host: Angela Gill Nelms

Producer: Katie Hart

Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.

Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com

About The AGN Group:

At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.

Social Media Channels:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/

Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2

Want to be a Podcast Guest?

If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email brave@angelagillnelms.com.

The discussion also tackles questions leaders, policymakers, and mission-driven professionals frequently search for, including:

• How do global cancer initiatives really get funded?
• Why do most cancer deaths occur in low- and middle-income countries?
• What is “stage shifting” in cancer care, and why does it matter?
• How can governments, nonprofits, and the private sector collaborate without duplicating efforts?
• What does it look like to push for urgency inside slow-moving systems?
• How can leaders balance burnout, bureaucracy, and long-term impact?

Key Takeaways:

• Catching cancer earlier saves lives and reduces long-term healthcare costs
• Global health solutions work best when designed with, not for, local communities
• Bureaucracy is unavoidable, but leaders can still drive meaningful change within it
• Bold decisions often feel uncomfortable in the moment but define long-term impact
• Sustainable funding models require creativity beyond traditional philanthropy
• Leadership at scale is about systems, not individual heroics

Themes:

• Global cancer prevention and early detection
• Health equity and access
• Leadership inside government and large institutions
• Systems change vs. individual impact
• Women in STEM leadership
• Immigration, resilience, and purpose-driven careers
• Navigating urgency in bureaucratic environments

In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms sits down with Nicholas Loise, founder of Sales Performance Team, to unpack what truly drives sustainable sales growth and strong leadership inside growing organizations. Drawing from decades of hands-on experience across healthcare, SaaS, education, hospitality, and services, Nick breaks down why most companies struggle with sales execution, pipeline accuracy, and differentiation in the marketplace.

The conversation goes beyond theory and dives into real-world leadership decisions, including how misaligned incentives quietly destroy performance, why most leaders misread their pipeline, and what happens when companies compete on price instead of value. Nick also shares how leaders can build repeatable sales systems, ask better questions, and create alignment across sales, marketing, and customer experience.

The discussion also tackles questions people actively search for, including:

• What is the difference between a leader and a manager?
• How do you articulate value in a crowded market?
• Why do sales pipelines look strong but fail to close?
• How should leaders handle conflict resolution inside sales teams?
• What sales incentives actually motivate high performers?
• Why competing on price is a losing strategy for growth companies
• How leaders should think about go-to-market strategy and pipeline creation

This episode is a must-listen for founders, executives, and sales leaders who want practical insight instead of surface-level advice.

Learn More About Nicholas Loise:

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nicholas.loise/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/
• Website: salesperformanceteam.com
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nicholasloise
• Twitter / X: https://x.com/NicholasLoise
• Other: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Nicholas-Loise/author/B0DY5M8FXW?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2&qid=1749483905&sr=8-2&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

Produced by: The AGN Group

Host: Angela Gill Nelms

Producer: Katie Hart

Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.

Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com

About The AGN Group:

At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.

Social Media Channels:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/

Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2

Want to be a Podcast Guest?

If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email brave@angelagillnelms.com.

Key Takeaways:

• Clear value articulation prevents businesses from becoming commodities
• Leaders must ask uncomfortable questions to understand pipeline reality
• Misaligned incentives lead to bad deals, churn, and burnout
• Sales systems must be repeatable, not personality-driven
• Strong leadership requires balancing data with storytelling
• Growth stalls when leaders avoid hard conversations

Themes:

• Sales leadership and accountability
• Pipeline creation and pipeline truth
• Go-to-market strategy for SMBs
• Direct response marketing
• Differentiation and value positioning
• Incentives, motivation, and performance
• Leadership versus management