Episodios

  • Robert O'brien: An Insider's View on How Trump Actually Negotiates
    Apr 1 2026

    Former Trump Special Envoy for Hostage Affairs and National Security Advisor Robert C. O’Brien discusses behind-the-scenes negotiation lessons from hostage cases and major foreign-policy deals.

    O’Brien describes his approach as implementing President Trump’s decisions, crediting that alignment for successes including the Abraham Accords.

    He gives a candid look at what operations inside the Trump administration looks like. Robert and Stan weigh the merits and perils of Trump's personal negotiating style and the effects it might have on the U.S standing in the world.


    00:00 Trump Negotiation Style

    00:26 Meet Robert OBrien

    01:39 ASAP Rocky Case

    03:30 Tough Talk With Sweden

    05:27 From Hostages To NSA

    07:27 Abraham Accords Breakthrough

    10:59 Kushner And Internal Pushback

    12:07 West Bank Red Line

    14:25 Maximalism And Greenland

    17:35 Unpredictability And Kissinger

    19:48 Taiwan And China Strategy

    21:55 Allies And Burden Sharing

    24:38 Soleimani And Syria Deal

    27:51 Erdogan And Long Term Ties

    31:17 Negotiation Skills And Unity


    Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years.

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  • Fareed Zakaria: Navigating a World of Rising Powers and Shifting Alliances
    Mar 12 2026

    In this conversation with Fareed Zakaria, the discussion centers on negotiation as the core of foreign policy and the danger of confusing tactical success with strategic clarity.

    Zakaria weighs in on the U.S conflict in Iran and shares a dire warning about how it could affect U.S negotiations for years to come.

    Stan and Fareed discuss a wide range of bilateral relationships and the potential risk of an “imperial trap” we might be falling into as we erode trust and the post-1945 order.


    Check out Fareed on his podcast:

    https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/fareed-zakaria-gps

    And CNN: https://podcasts.apple.com/iq/podcast/fareed-zakaria-gps/id377785090


    00:00 Tactics vs Strategy

    01:33 Iran Talks Undermined

    03:46 Israel US Goals Diverge

    06:00 Iraq Lessons and Aims

    08:20 Pressuring Israel

    12:25 China Reads the Signals

    15:11 Tariffs and Trust

    18:01 Allies and Supply Chains

    21:55 India and Turkey

    23:11 Turkey Drifts Westward

    23:59 Pressuring Putin to Talk

    25:43 Both Sides and Overreach

    28:50 Norms Versus Guardrails

    32:00 Why Congress Stays Silent

    35:35 Can GOP Reclaim Reagan

    38:03 Democrats and Culture Wars

    42:10 Great Negotiators and Wrap



    Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years.

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    46 m
  • Jenna Nicholas: Negotiating For Purpose And Profit
    Feb 24 2026

    In this podcast episode, Stan welcomes investor and CEO Jenna Nicholas to discuss the growing inflection point where financial performance aligns with social and environmental impact.

    They explore Nicholas’s book, "The Enlightened Bottom Line: Exploring the Intersection of Spirituality, Business and Investing," including her motivation to interview investors and business leaders about transformational moments, values, and legacy.

    Nicholas shares case studies such as Patagonia’s Holdfast Collective structure to perpetuate environmental impact, Panera’s COVID-era partnership to provide school lunches through USDA support, and companies like Devoted Health and Barry-Wehmiller that connect trust and empathy to business performance.

    Check out Jenna's book at: https://www.jenna-nicholas.com/


    00:00 Impact Investing Inflection

    00:57 Negotiation Lessons Revisited

    01:48 Why Write The Book

    04:26 Patagonia And Panera Stories

    07:33 HEAL Framework Explained

    08:15 ESG Goes Mainstream

    14:46 Convincing The Skeptics

    17:00 Trust Purpose And Performance

    19:39 Spirituality At Work

    23:13 Embedding Values In Culture

    25:21 What Is Impact Experience

    33:40 Measuring Outcomes And Commitments

    35:50 Education Equity Breakthroughs

    41:47 Deep Listening As Persuasion

    44:36 Closing Thoughts And Book Plug

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    46 m
  • Jeremy Andrus: The Turnaround Entrepreneur behind Traeger Grills
    Feb 10 2026

    In this revealing episode, Stan sits down with Jeremy Andrus, CEO of Traeger Grills, to delve into his gripping experiences in entrepreneurship and business transformation. Jeremy shares the tumultuous journey of rethinking and reinventing Traeger Grills amidst economic upheavals, tariffs, and a toxic corporate culture. The conversation covers the critical importance of negotiation, managing complex supplier relationships, leveraging partnerships with major retailers like Costco, and the power of transparency in leadership. Alongside anecdotes from his time at Skullcandy and a harrowing poisoning scare in China, Jeremy offers invaluable insights into building a resilient business that's not just about survival, but winning.

    00:27 Meet Jeremy Andres: CEO of Traeger Grills

    01:12 Navigating Challenges: COVID and Tariffs

    02:47 Reinvention and Survival Strategies

    05:38 Transparency and Team Communication

    10:43 Jeremy's Harvard Business School Journey

    13:16 Early Entrepreneurial Struggles

    17:17 Joining Skullcandy: The Early Days

    21:55 Negotiating Deals and Raising Capital

    29:05 Acquiring Traeger Grills: The Surprises

    30:04 Acquiring a 27-Year-Old Business

    30:35 Cultural Challenges and Realizations

    33:01 Negotiating a Buyout

    33:34 Revamping the Supply Chain

    34:37 Dealing with Toxic Culture

    36:59 Retail Negotiations and Battle Scars

    37:25 Costco's Tough Negotiation Tactics

    48:38 Supplier Negotiations in China

    55:54 Building Strong Supplier Relationships

    01:03:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


    Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years.


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  • David Neeleman: The JetBlue founder who built five successful airlines
    Jan 13 2026

    In this episode, Stan welcomes David Neeleman, a renowned figure in the airline industry, for an in-depth conversation on the intricacies of building successful airlines. David, who has founded five airlines including JetBlue and Breeze Airways, shares his insights on effective negotiation, leadership, and personal growth. The discussion covers his career journey, significant milestones, key strategies in negotiating with stakeholders, and maintaining a strong company culture. David also opens up about challenges, including his time at Southwest Airlines and the infamous Valentine's Day crisis at JetBlue, and the lessons learned from these experiences.


    01:04 David Neeleman's Early Career and Morris Air

    02:21 The Sale to Southwest Airlines

    04:43 Challenges at Southwest and Moving On

    06:33 Founding WestJet and Navitaire

    09:40 The Birth of JetBlue

    11:17 JetBlue's Success and Differentiation

    13:29 Negotiating with Boeing and Airbus

    16:03 Customer Engagement and Communication Strategies

    22:14 Total Transparency and Accountability

    22:39 The Valentine's Day Massacre Crisis

    25:43 Lessons from Getting Fired

    29:51 Founding Azul Airlines

    32:18 Navigating Cross-Cultural Challenges

    34:14 The Success of Breeze Airways

    42:25 Effective Negotiation Strategies

    43:34 Advice for Young Professionals

    Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years.

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  • Chip Conley: The entrepreneur who reinvented three industries
    Dec 9 2025

    In this episode, Stan talks with Chip Conley, an iconic entrepreneur and the founder of the Joie De Vivre hotel chain, a key player in Airbnb, and the creator of the Modern Elder Academy. They dive into the principles of karmic capitalism, lessons learned from building and scaling multiple successful businesses, and strategies for maintaining a good reputation.

    Chip shares his experiences at Airbnb, dealing with regulation challenges, and the importance of inter-generational collaboration.

    They also discuss the Modern Elder Academy, where Chip helps individuals navigate midlife transitions and find new purpose.

    This episode is rich with lessons in negotiation, leadership, and holistic thinking.

    Check out:

    Chip’s Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMidlifeChrysalisPodcast

    Modern Elder Academy: https://www.meawisdom.com/

    Chip’s podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMidlifeChrysalisPodcast


    00:00 Introduction to Karmic Capitalism

    00:20 Meet Chip Conley: Entrepreneurial Journey

    02:48 Founding Joie de Vivre Hotel Chain

    05:55 Negotiating with Bands and Tour Managers

    11:26 Risk and Decision Making in Business

    15:21 Hotel Vitale: A Case Study in Negotiation

    19:26 Managing Through Economic Downturns

    23:34 Transition to Airbnb and Burning Man Involvement

    29:20 The Ethos of Burning Man

    29:39 Negotiation Strategies and Personal Stories

    31:46 Joining Airbnb: A New Challenge

    33:08 Building Culture and Facing Challenges at Airbnb

    36:33 Navigating Co-Founder Dynamics

    40:28 Regulation and Host Relations

    45:02 Founding the Modern Elder Academy

    48:09 Helping People Navigate Midlife Transitions

    52:25 The Value of Wisdom and Experience

    54:56 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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  • David Rubenstein: Carlyle Co-Founder on Negotiation Lessons from Wall Street to Washington
    Nov 20 2025

    In this insightful episode you will learn about the power of persuasion and negotiation from David Rubenstein, co-founder of The Carlyle Group. Dive into his extensive experience in relationship-building, fundraising, and leadership. Discover Rubenstein's methods for becoming an effective communicator and the significance of self-deprecating humor and active listening in negotiations. Gain an insider's perspective on political dynamics, U.S. presidencies, and nonprofit leadership as Rubenstein shares stories from his distinguished career. Whether in business, politics, or personal relationships, find out how persistence, integrity, and bipartisanship are key to success.


    00:00 Introduction: The Power of Persuasion

    01:00 Building Relationships: Insights from David Rubenstein

    01:38 Developing an Outgoing Personality

    03:34 Lessons from Ted Sorenson

    04:47 The Role of Persistence in Fundraising

    08:17 Recruiting and Integrity at Carlisle

    11:36 Leadership Transitions at Carlisle

    14:36 Current Political Climate and Bipartisanship

    21:07 International Relations and Allies

    23:06 Presidential Power and Persuasion

    25:45 Trump's Popularity in the Middle East

    26:52 Reflecting on Jimmy Carter's Legacy

    28:08 Challenges in Leading Nonprofit Organizations

    32:19 The Role of Presidents in Negotiation

    33:05 Evaluating Presidential Effectiveness

    38:48 Obama's Struggles with Bipartisanship

    40:39 Supreme Court Confirmations and Politics

    42:03 Perspectives on Reagan and Bush

    45:19 Biden's Negotiation Challenges

    46:27 US-China Relations

    47:52 The Importance of Negotiation Skills

    50:12 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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  • Jake Harriman: Building Trust Across Political Lines at More Perfect Union
    Nov 4 2025

    In this compelling episode, Jake Harriman, founder of More Perfect Union, discusses his mission to bridge America's partisan divide through community service, civics, and social gatherings. Harriman, a former Marine with extensive combat experience in Iraq, shares how his military background and a transformational encounter in Southern Iraq pushed him to address extreme poverty in Africa through the nonprofit Nuru International. He later transitioned to More Perfect Union, inspired by the growing political divide in America. The conversation covers Harriman's active efforts in various communities, from rural Texas to urban Washington D.C., to unite people across political lines through structured activities and curated conversations. Key negotiation lessons emphasize active listening, empathy, and finding common ground.


    00:00 Introduction to the Guest and His Mission

    01:10 Jake's Military Background and Lessons Learned

    02:10 Negotiation Stories from the Battlefield

    12:37 A Life-Changing Experience in Iraq

    17:33 Founding NRU International

    19:42 Challenges and Successes in Africa

    27:14 Negotiation Tactics in Challenging Environments

    27:58 Ensuring Safety in Remote Areas

    29:05 Building Trust with Local Leaders

    30:45 Personal Stories of Security and Negotiation

    32:03 Faith in the Military's Loyalty

    33:23 Transition to More Perfect Union

    35:24 Founding More Perfect Union

    37:02 Brickyards: Building Community Trust

    40:15 Success Stories from Brickyards

    48:25 Recruiting and Training Brickyard Leaders

    55:48 Final Thoughts and Getting Involved

    Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years.

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