Welcome back to another episode of All Things Considered CX!

In today’s conversation, Bob Azman sits down with Nick Bond, founder of Apex, to dive deep into the evolving world of customer experience, behavioral science, and the impact of AI on business.

Nick shares his journey from traditional research and marketing roles to launching Apex, a company on the forefront of using data and motivation science to truly understand what drives customer decisions—and what it takes to move the needle on customer engagement and lifetime value.

Together, Bob and Nick break down the shortcomings of metrics like NPS, the resurgence of customer lifetime value, and why understanding customer emotion is key to delivering experiences that inspire action—whether you’re in B2C or B2B. From uncovering the power of “joy” in even the most unexpected places, to activating insights from your company’s untapped data, this episode is packed with eye-opening insights on how to create value for customers and, just as importantly, get value from them.

Ready to challenge old assumptions about customer engagement and discover how AI can fuel both better service and smarter growth? Let’s jump in!

Welcome back to another episode of All Things Considered CX!

In today’s conversation, Bob Azman sits down with Nick Bond, founder of Apex, to dive deep into the evolving world of customer experience, behavioral science, and the impact of AI on business.

Nick shares his journey from traditional research and marketing roles to launching Apex, a company on the forefront of using data and motivation science to truly understand what drives customer decisions—and what it takes to move the needle on customer engagement and lifetime value.

Together, Bob and Nick break down the shortcomings of metrics like NPS, the resurgence of customer lifetime value, and why understanding customer emotion is key to delivering experiences that inspire action—whether you’re in B2C or B2B. From uncovering the power of “joy” in even the most unexpected places, to activating insights from your company’s untapped data, this episode is packed with eye-opening insights on how to create value for customers and, just as importantly, get value from them.

Ready to challenge old assumptions about customer engagement and discover how AI can fuel both better service and smarter growth? Let’s jump in!

Welcome back to another episode of the All Things Considered CX Podcast!

In this engaging conversation, Bob Azman reconnects with Annette Franz, Chief Experience Officer of CX Journey, Inc., and a true thought leader in the world of customer and employee experience.

Annette shares insights from her impressive 33-year career—including her start at J.D. Power and Associates—and dives into the central themes of her latest book, "Employee Understanding."

Together, Bob and Annette explore why so many organizations are stuck in the basics of experience management, often overlooking the vital connection between employee experience (EX) and customer experience (CX). Annette makes a compelling case for focusing on culture as the foundation of a thriving workplace, revealing the three pillar framework at the heart of her new book.

They discuss why imposing rigid "rules" doesn’t work, how workplaces can truly operationalize their values, and why governance—often seen as a negative—is actually a force for positive collaboration when done right.

Plus, Annette addresses the often-overlooked shortcomings in recruiting and onboarding and offers practical advice for any leader aiming to create an employee-centric organization.

If you’re looking for actionable ideas to disrupt the status quo and drive lasting change in both customer and employee experience, you won’t want to miss the lessons and stories Annette shares in this illuminating episode.

Welcome back to another episode of the All Things Considered CX Podcast!

In this engaging conversation, Bob Azman reconnects with Annette Franz, Chief Experience Officer of CX Journey, Inc., and a true thought leader in the world of customer and employee experience.

Annette shares insights from her impressive 33-year career—including her start at J.D. Power and Associates—and dives into the central themes of her latest book, "Employee Understanding."

Together, Bob and Annette explore why so many organizations are stuck in the basics of experience management, often overlooking the vital connection between employee experience (EX) and customer experience (CX). Annette makes a compelling case for focusing on culture as the foundation of a thriving workplace, revealing the three pillar framework at the heart of her new book.

They discuss why imposing rigid "rules" doesn’t work, how workplaces can truly operationalize their values, and why governance—often seen as a negative—is actually a force for positive collaboration when done right.

Plus, Annette addresses the often-overlooked shortcomings in recruiting and onboarding and offers practical advice for any leader aiming to create an employee-centric organization.

If you’re looking for actionable ideas to disrupt the status quo and drive lasting change in both customer and employee experience, you won’t want to miss the lessons and stories Annette shares in this illuminating episode.

Welcome back to All Things Considered CX! In today’s episode, host Bob Azman sit down with Matt Taylor, Co-Founder and CPO of Knowbl, a cutting-edge company transforming customer experience with conversational AI and automation.

Matt shares his unconventional journey from consulting to launching Knowbl amid the pandemic, drawing on deep experience in innovation labs and product management.

Together, they dive into what’s really happening on the front lines of AI in customer service—from separating real business value from “solution chasing,” to mapping the customer journey and turning contact centers into true experience hubs.

Tune in for an honest look at the challenges and opportunities facing organizations leveraging AI, why not every call should be automated, and what the future holds for customer experience as technology evolves.

Whether you’re a CX pro, an executive, or just curious about the future of AI in business, you won’t want to miss Matt’s practical advice and candid industry insights!

Welcome back to All Things Considered CX! In today’s episode, host Bob Azman sit down with Matt Taylor, Co-Founder and CPO of Knowbl, a cutting-edge company transforming customer experience with conversational AI and automation.

Matt shares his unconventional journey from consulting to launching Knowbl amid the pandemic, drawing on deep experience in innovation labs and product management.

Together, they dive into what’s really happening on the front lines of AI in customer service—from separating real business value from “solution chasing,” to mapping the customer journey and turning contact centers into true experience hubs.

Tune in for an honest look at the challenges and opportunities facing organizations leveraging AI, why not every call should be automated, and what the future holds for customer experience as technology evolves.

Whether you’re a CX pro, an executive, or just curious about the future of AI in business, you won’t want to miss Matt’s practical advice and candid industry insights!

Welcome to a brand-new episode of All Things Considered CX! In today’s thought-provoking conversation, host Bob Azman sits down with customer service experience leader Alex Mead for a candid look at what’s wrong with today’s CX practices—and how real transformation starts by getting back to the basics.

Alex dives deep into his unique CSX (Customer Service Experience) philosophy and why he’s on a mission to separate service from the marketing noise that’s “ruining customer experience.”

You’ll hear Alex passionately break down his EPIC framework—Easy, Personalized, Intuitive, and Contextual—and share hard-won insights on making technology like AI work for the customer, instead of just chasing cost savings.

If you’re ready for an honest, sometimes unfiltered discussion about the pain points customers really face, and how practitioners, not just consultants, can drive CX that actually works, this episode is for you. Get inspired to challenge the status quo, put customer needs first, and advocate for change that adds real value—all while picking up actionable ideas to elevate your own customer service game.

Tune in as we kick off a new season with practical wisdom, industry stories, and a no-nonsense approach to CX that will have you rethinking everything you thought you knew about customer experience.

Welcome to a brand-new episode of All Things Considered CX! In today’s thought-provoking conversation, host Bob Azman sits down with customer service experience leader Alex Mead for a candid look at what’s wrong with today’s CX practices—and how real transformation starts by getting back to the basics.

Alex dives deep into his unique CSX (Customer Service Experience) philosophy and why he’s on a mission to separate service from the marketing noise that’s “ruining customer experience.”

You’ll hear Alex passionately break down his EPIC framework—Easy, Personalized, Intuitive, and Contextual—and share hard-won insights on making technology like AI work for the customer, instead of just chasing cost savings.

If you’re ready for an honest, sometimes unfiltered discussion about the pain points customers really face, and how practitioners, not just consultants, can drive CX that actually works, this episode is for you. Get inspired to challenge the status quo, put customer needs first, and advocate for change that adds real value—all while picking up actionable ideas to elevate your own customer service game.

Tune in as we kick off a new season with practical wisdom, industry stories, and a no-nonsense approach to CX that will have you rethinking everything you thought you knew about customer experience.