• Not Gay

  • Sex Between Straight White Men
  • De: Jane Ward
  • Narrado por: Dara Rosenberg
  • Duración: 8 h y 6 m
  • 3.8 out of 5 stars (131 calificaciones)

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Not Gay

De: Jane Ward
Narrado por: Dara Rosenberg
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A straight white girl can kiss a girl, like it, and still call herself straight - her boyfriend may even encourage her. But can straight white guys experience the same easy sexual fluidity, or would kissing a guy just mean that they are really gay?

Not Gay thrusts deep into a world where straight guy-on-guy action is not a myth but a reality: There's fraternity and military hazing rituals, where new recruits are made to grab each other's penises and stick fingers up their fellow members' anuses; online personal ads, where straight men seek other straight men to masturbate with; and, last but not least, the long and clandestine history of straight men frequenting public restrooms for sexual encounters with other men. For Jane Ward, these sexual practices reveal a unique social space where straight white men can - and do - have sex with other straight white men; in fact, she argues, to do so reaffirms rather than challenges their gender and racial identity.

Ward illustrates that sex between straight white men allows them to leverage whiteness and masculinity to authenticate their heterosexuality in the context of sex with men. By understanding their same-sex sexual practices as meaningless, accidental, or even necessary, straight white men can perform homosexual contact in heterosexual ways. These sex acts are not slippages into a queer way of being or expressions of a desired but unarticulated gay identity. Instead, Ward argues, they reveal the fluidity and complexity that characterizes all human sexual desire. In the end, Ward's analysis offers a new way to think about heterosexuality - not as the opposite or absence of homosexuality but as its own unique mode of engaging in homosexual sex, a mode characterized by pretense, disidentification, and racial and heterosexual privilege.

Daring, insightful, and brimming with wit, Not Gay is a fascinating new take on the complexities of heterosexuality in the modern era.

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Insightful sociology

Surprising, insightful and entertaining. The author takes you on a journey though a subject that is unfortunately taboo. she dares to hit the head of the nail with the hammer and call out years of repression of sexual fluidity.

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A must read for all queers and men.

This is beautiful and revolutionary and life changing. I never thought it would be a queer woman that would open my eyes to things I was subconsciously aware of, but didn't have words for. It must have been fun research to slog through Craigslist personal ads and hazing porn.

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Great topic... not a fan of the narration.

This is a great topic and most of the substance of the book is well written. My problem with it at times the voice of the writing as well as the narrator sounds very condescending towards straight men. As though the deeply ingrained messages men receive from society growing up are somehow each individual "white hetero male"'s own fault. I just don't like the attitude. This is a book that straight men should feel comfortable reading and I think they would just feel attacked most of the time listening. It should make a straight man feel more confident in their sexuality and I think I would feel more shame.

I also don't agree with some of the author's opinions on film. Her take on Superbad for instance, I feel she missed the whole point of the film. The two male protagonists, in my opinion... are not bumbling idiots and I think the film actually does a remarkable job at showing the tragedy of intimate male relationships fraying due to societal expectations. I almost cried at the end! I think the author mistakes complexity of personality and character for... weakness of character.

overall worth a listen or read though. I would've loved to hear a bit more science and research and perhaps even personal experiences.

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Very interesting analysis

This was a very interesting and illuminating view of male sexuality. I’m going to have to buy a print copy for reference material.

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Fun, Informative and Thought-Provoking

The audio version of this book is adorable: a wry wink of a read, rather like having Amy Poehler cast as a smart and funny, women studies professor. Dara Rosenberg does a great job with Jane Ward's cheeky (yet academic) text, to craft an engaging listen.

I first heard Dr Ward interviewed on Tristan Taormino's podcast back in August, and was surprised to hear how much sex "straight" guys were allegedly having with each other through Craig's List and other such venues. When the audio version came out, I got it mostly from curiosity about that, but came to enjoy the gender theory and other insights Ward brings to the subject, particularly her insights about the way that hegemonic masculinity conflates sexism and racism in a way which preserves its own sense of entitlement and exceptionalism. This is not just hypocrisy, but beyond that toward psychosis.

A bit academic at times, the audio version was still quite enjoyable, and has me thinking about sexual orientation and political performance differently than I did before. Fun, informative and thought-provoking.

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Essential gender and sexually studies reading

I hadn't heard of this book when I came across it at an anthropology conference book sale but it was worth every penny. Although I am usually off put by social science and humanities research that is not based in original primary research, the studies discussed throughout this book were obscure enough to me to prevent the book from feeling merely theoretical. The author poses a fascinating challenge to our rigid thinking about male same sex sexual acts while also highlighting the role of race in American cultural constructions of male heterosexual it and homosexuality. By highlighting instances of same sex sexual acts between heterosexual men the author is able to constructively complicate our understanding of sexuality, masculinity and whiteness, all of which are rarely and inadequately theorized in the vast majority of gender studies literature in particular and the social sciences in general. Although it frequently felt like I was listening to a jargon laden conference talk, I believe this book can serve as excellent reading material for upper level undergraduates.

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Good listen

Fun expression of male sexuality relative to white privileged. Interesting facts and provides a lot to think about IMO.

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Not Gay

it was boring and difficult to follow. Half the time I didn’t understand what she was talking about really. Like having a textbook read to you. I’m sorry I wasted my money.

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Nothing in "book" is any kind of any Gay story!

This is a_* review" of every piece of gay literature ever penned. it has nothing go do with any actual story . It has no story content except the rambling of the authors idea of what constitutes a piece of gay literature. To say it is a disappointment is generous at best. But given that it is included with legitimate gay writings is false advertising. It has no business with gay erotica or gay porn soft or hardcore. I wasted money buying this rubbish thinking that it would be a worthy patt.of my reading collection.

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Extreme Feminism and Liberalism

This book wasn’t for you, but who do you think might enjoy it more?

Liberal, feminist women

Has Not Gay turned you off from other books in this genre?

Yes

What did you like about the performance? What did you dislike?

Reader was clear and made the content as interesting as possible

What character would you cut from Not Gay?

The writer

Any additional comments?

I gave this book an honest try. I suffered through over 4 hours. I just gave up. Ward goes on and on about feminist ideas and it's just so distracting from the actual subject of the book. She spends more time discussing lesbian thoughts than that of gay men. There was some value in discussing the different times and categories of straight men that have gay encounters. However, her rants about black oppression and homophobia were just too distracting. The phrase "straight white male" must have been used hundreds of times which became monotonous. Might be great from a feminazi point of view, but not from a gay guy that has had sex with several straight identifying men. There is just too much fluff and not enough meaningful content. Almost as if it was a school paper that was lengthed because there was only a page of good content and the requirement was 10 pages and the student just started going off on meaningless tangents to fill up space. Highly do not recommend, I will be getting a refund.

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