• Four Futures

  • Life After Capitalism
  • De: Peter Frase
  • Narrado por: Bob Souer
  • Duración: 3 h y 36 m
  • 4.5 out of 5 stars (209 calificaciones)

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De: Peter Frase
Narrado por: Bob Souer
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Peter Frase argues that increasing automation and a growing scarcity of resources, thanks to climate change, will bring it all tumbling down. In Four Futures, Frase imagines how this postcapitalist world might look, deploying the tools of both social science and speculative fiction to explore what communism, rentism, socialism, and exterminism might actually entail. Could the current rise of real-life robocops usher in a world that resembles Ender's Game? And sure, communism will bring an end to material scarcities and inequalities of wealth - but there's no guarantee that social hierarchies, governed by an economy of "likes", wouldn't rise to take their place.

A whirlwind tour through science fiction, social theory and the new technologies already shaping our lives, Four Futures is a balance sheet of the socialisms we may reach if a resurgent Left is successful - and the barbarisms we may be consigned to if those movements fail.

©2016 Peter Frase (P)2017 Tantor

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Fantastic

The topics are complex but is written clearly in simple language. Definitely a good book for the more political-conscious societies nowadays. Love the simplicity, comprehensiveness and also the occasional jabs of sarcasm :)

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short and sweet

needed a short listen, but this was so filled with thought provoking ideas and those ideas were so well referenced that I must buy the book. I look forward to going deep on the possible futures introduced here.

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A book well thought out piece

I can't help but feel increasingly nihilistic after reading this book. The rich are just going to kill us all.

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A clean, conscise and refreshing exploration

Positing--as he describes it-- two socialisms and two barbarisms. Two heavens and two hells. Frase delves into the possibilities of four ways the future might play out. He classifies them as:

Communism: a world of abundance and equality

Socialism: a world of scarcity and equality

Rentism: a world of abundance and inequality

Exterminism: a world of scarcity and inequality

Using refreshing examples from pop culture right beside carefully researched study on economics, history and upcoming technologies, Frase lays out how we could end up in each world, and its various functions and priorities. Heads up, this is not  a get-out-the-guillotines rail against capitalist society, at all. It's simply an observation that all societies change, and that the current model depends on a system of inputs that aren't going to be out there forever. Technology is also changing the types of work there are to do with human hands. Society will change. That's a given. This book discusses what it can change into.

I'll say this up front: I listened to the audiobook, and man the reader is dry. It nearly turned me off what is a really engaging and interesting book. Cogently put and up front about everything, Futures doesn't try to stay scientifically objective: it engages with the fact that we want one of the good futures. The question is how to get them. And it lays out solid suggestions on that, as well as delving into lots of pop literature and movies on the subject. This had a leavening effect on what could have been a really stolid work. The author even made Disney world jokes. I was a little thrown by the fact that the book decided to start with the good futures and end with the worst outcome of all, but the approach works, leaving us with a balanced and cautious optimism tempered by warnings for what to watch out for going forward.  I found it approachable and often fun, if a little prone to be ponderous. But I guess a little pomposity is impossible to avoid in a work like this.

What I like best about this book is its stress on the importance that tech isn't going to decide our future: people will. In the mindsets we cultivate within our societies, the choices we make as individuals and nations, and the stories we tell, we're shaping the future every day. It also reminded me, as a writer, to keep working hard to tell hopeful stories. Because, as this book says 'we can all imagine the end of the world, but few of us can imagine the end of capitalism'.
This is a clean, concise and refreshing exploration of futures, with a pragmatically optimistic outlook. Well worth the read

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Am interesting thought experiment

This was quick, so I gave it a listen. It was a fun thought experiment and I liked it. It is, as the author admits, fanciful and metaphorical more than literal. That means he was able to tie it back to where we are now. Very compelling.

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A great read for futurists

Loved it. Great narrator. Easy read. Amazing content. Perfect for people who like pondering the future.

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Excellent work

Sober thoughtful and well constructed. The author has done an impressive job trimming any fat. Brief but powerful, avoids proselytizing or easy solutions.
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Loved this

Loved this. I’m starting a second read. Outlines a multitude of ideas pulled from areas of fiction & nonfiction thinking I didn’t know existed. And does so in the most rational, convincing tone.

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A Biased Opinion of Four Futures

Though I have strong conservative, libertarian-leaning views, I try to be well-read on other perspectives to be sure I better understand all sides. This is one book I could not listen to though. The bias toward communism and against capitalism was clearly evident. I listened to about an hour of the book before I gave up on the possibility of something valuable coming out of it. I think there will be those who love this, but it will generally be those who share the same views as the author, as there's nothing impartial about the book.

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A Compilation of Other Books and Movies

A decent introduction to economic and social trends, but I was expecting a bit more than a summary of popular movies and books. Peter Frase cites Player Piano by Kurt Vonnegut, Elysium, and other works to explain the ideas of communism, socialism, and capitalism. I would have preferred to read those instead.

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