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Disordered: Anxiety Help

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Disordered is the podcast that delivers real, evidence-based, actionable talk about anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery in a kind, compassionate, community-oriented environment. Josh Fletcher is a qualified psychotherapist in the UK. Drew Linsalata is a therapist practicing under supervision in the US. They're both bestselling authors in the anxiety and mental health space. Josh and Drew are funny, friendly, and they have a knack for combining lived experience, formal training, and professional experience in an encouraging, inspiring, and compassionate mental health message.Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata Higiene y Vida Saludable Psicología Psicología y Salud Mental
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  • Craig The Critic (Episode 130)
    Oct 17 2025

    In this episode, Drew and Josh explore the powerful role of the internal critic—affectionately named "Craig"—in maintaining anxiety disorders and interfering with recovery. They discuss how this nagging inner voice criticizes, questions, and doubts us, often telling us we're doing things wrong or that we'll never be who we hope to be.

    Let's examine where Craig the Critic comes from, including family dynamics, conditional affection, societal pressures, and social media comparisons. The episode explains how this critical voice drives us toward impossible standards and fuels the "should" statements that keep us stuck: "You should be feeling this," "You should be better by now," or "You should be like everyone else."

    The guys discuss how Craig the Critic shows up across different anxiety presentations—from OCD to agoraphobia to panic disorder—and how this voice can block the learning that happens during exposure work. They explore how the internal critic constantly demands we fix, control, and change our anxiety rather than learning to respond differently to it.

    A key theme in this episode is compassion as the antidote to self-criticism, how moving toward what matters to us—guided by our values rather than Craig's demands—helps us break free from the cycle of criticism and avoidance. We're also tackling the common misconception that we need harsh self-criticism to keep us in check, when in reality, it often keeps us trapped in disordered patterns.

    The episode features inspiring "Did It Anyway" stories from listeners who faced their fears despite Craig's objections, including someone starting a new job, another taking their children on challenging outings, and a future firefighter who completed a demanding physical fitness test while experiencing panic symptoms.

    Topics Covered:

    • Understanding the internal critic and where it originates
    • How self-criticism maintains anxiety disorders
    • The difference between helpful self-evaluation and destructive criticism
    • Why comparing yourself to your "pre-anxious" self backfires
    • The role of compassion in anxiety recovery
    • How Craig the Critic interferes with exposure work and learning
    • Practical ways to recognize and respond differently to the critical voice

    This episode may be particularly helpful for those who struggle with perfectionism, harsh self-judgment, or feeling like they're failing at recovery.


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  • Anxiety Symptoms - AIR HUNGER (Episode 129)
    Oct 10 2025

    In this episode of Disordered, Drew and Josh tackle one of the most frightening anxiety symptoms: air hunger - that terrifying feeling that you can't get a deep enough breath or fully fill your lungs.

    Drew and Josh draw from both their clinical expertise and personal recovery experiences to explain why this sensation happens, why trying to "fix" your breathing often makes things worse, and how the compulsive need to control your breath can actually create the problem you're trying to solve.

    They explore how air hunger connects to stress, anxiety disorders, and OCD, discussing why breathing techniques and breath work - while potentially helpful for general stress - can become problematic compulsions when you're dealing with disordered anxiety. The hosts emphasize a key principle: there's a critical difference between feeling like you can't breathe and actually not being able to breathe.

    The episode includes inspiring "Did It Anyway" stories from listeners who faced their fears - from pushing through panic during a music gig, to driving 40 minutes despite intense anxiety, to confronting her OCD fears, and a transformation from being unable to stay in a room alone to enjoying solo time at home.

    Drew and Josh offer practical guidance rooted in acceptance-based approaches: get out of your own way, let your body regulate itself naturally, and resist the urge to constantly check, control, or perfect your breathing. As they remind listeners, your body has successfully kept you breathing your entire life - it doesn't need micromanagement now.

    Topics covered:

    • What air hunger is and why it happens
    • The connection between stress, anxiety, and breathing sensations
    • Why breathing techniques can become compulsions
    • The role of interoceptive exposure in treatment
    • How to respond when you notice air hunger (hint: not by trying to control it)
    • Why sleep proves your body knows how to breathe on its own

    Whether you're experiencing air hunger yourself or supporting someone who is, this episode offers a compassionate, reality-based approach to one of anxiety's most unsettling symptoms.

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  • How Long Does De-Sensitization Take? (Episode 128)
    Oct 3 2025

    One of the most common questions we hear from people working through anxiety disorders and OCD is: "How long is this going to take?" In this episode, Drew and Josh tackle the timeline question head-on—but probably not in the way you're expecting.

    We explore why asking "how long until I recover?" might be the wrong question, and why shifting to "how long until I'm desensitized?" can be a game-changer in how you approach your anxiety journey. We discuss the reality that there's no universal timeline, no magic number of weeks, and why that's actually okay.

    In this episode:

    • Why the concept of "recovery" as a finish line may not be helpful for anxiety disorders
    • The difference between recovery and desensitization
    • How urgency and pressure can actually slow your progress
    • Why some people seem to progress faster than others (and why that doesn't matter)
    • The role of self-compassion, patience, and realistic expectations
    • Why hard days are a normal part of the process—even after significant progress
    • How perfectionism and the need for certainty can keep you stuck


    We also share inspiring "Did It Anyway" stories from listeners who are moving forward with their lives—traveling, attending events, and even jumping into mosh pits—alongside their anxiety, not waiting for it to disappear first.

    Whether you're struggling with panic disorder, agoraphobia, OCD, health anxiety, or other anxiety disorders, this episode offers a realistic, compassionate perspective on what it means to make progress and why the journey looks different for everyone.


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    Want a way to ask questions about this episode or interact with us and other Disordered listeners? The Disordered app is nearing release! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our home page and get on our mailing list for more information..


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    Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.


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    Want to ask us questions, share your wins, or get more information about Josh, Drew, and the Disordered podcast? Send us an email or leave a voicemail on our website.


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I like how this podcast explains how the body and mind connect and how people with OCD would likely not fit well with certain therapy techniques where your focused on something internal. They had a unique perspective on the body mind connection (even if they didn't call it that) in one of the episodes that gave me an ah ha moment.

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if you're having troubles with OCD or anxiety Josh and Drew can relate they add their own experiences and how they got over it they have been a huge help through my learning to accept my OCD and being able to live with it and accepting that that's just a part of me and we have to deal with uncertainty. this podcast has made me understand why it happens and how I've been getting better

how they share their experiences and how to navigate OCD and anxiety

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Each and everyone of these podcasts teach me an aspect of anxiety that I never understood before finding Drew and Josh. I'm so thankful for the help and knowledge that I've gained from these guys to finally move forward in my recovery instead of just wondering "Is this the treatment that'll make me better?" The truth will set u free!!

Regulators!

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one of the best I've heard....Thank you ...really changed my mind set cuz felt so stuck but this IS headway!

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