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Where You Go Is Not Who You'll Be
- An Antidote to the College Admissions Mania
- Narrated by: Frank Bruni
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Americans are taught to believe that upward mobility is possible for anyone who is willing to work hard, regardless of their social status. Yet it is often those from affluent backgrounds who land the best jobs. Pedigree takes listeners behind the closed doors of top-tier investment banks, consulting firms, and law firms to reveal the truth about who really gets hired for the nation's highest-paying entry-level jobs, who doesn't, and why.
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In The Formula: Unlocking the Secrets to Raising Highly Successful Children, Harvard economist Ronald Ferguson, named in a New York Times profile as the foremost expert on the US educational "achievement gap," along with award-winning journalist Tatsha Robertson, reveal an intriguing blueprint for helping children from all types of backgrounds become successful adults.
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would recommend
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It's only because they like me. I was in the right place at the right time. I just work harder than the others. I don't deserve this. It's just a matter of time before I am found out. Someone must have made a terrible mistake. If you are a working woman, chances are this internal monologue sounds all too familiar. And you're not alone. A shocking number of accomplished women in all career paths and at every level feel as though they are faking it - impostors in their own lives and careers.
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Don’t read between the title lines
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Everyone knows that you are supposed to "follow your dream". But where is the road map to help you discover what that dream is? You have just found it. In Springboard, award-winning author and teacher G. Richard Shell helps you find your future. His advice: Take an honest look inside and then answer two questions: What, for me, is success? How will I achieve it? You will begin by assessing your current beliefs about success, including the hidden influences of family, media, and culture. These are where the pressures to live "someone else's life" come from.
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Not what is advertised
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The Answer to Why Students Stop Trying
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A must read for new teachers
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These days, most people assume you need to pay a boatload of money for a quality college education. As a result, students and their parents are willing to go into years of debt and potentially sabotage their financial futures just to get a fancy name on a diploma. But Zac Bissonnette is walking proof that the assumption is not only false, but dangerous.
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Too long winded
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What would it take?That was the question that Geoffrey Canada found himself asking. What would it take to change the lives of poor children, not one by one, through heroic interventions and occasional miracles, but in big numbers, and in a way that could be replicated nationwide? The question led him to create the Harlem Children's Zone, a 97-block laboratory in central Harlem where he is testing new and sometimes controversial ideas about poverty in America.
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Aboslutely terrific!
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- M_BTV
- 05-18-15
A relatable and relevant book for our time
I really enjoyed listening and reading this book. I can certainly relate to the stories in this book even after 20 years ago going through the insane process of applying for colleges. The outcomes related in Bruni's stories are what I have seen happen to peers and others who I have met. The secret to Ivies is to not attend them as undergraduates. I learned when I went to an Ivy as a graduate student that revenue derived from undergraduate tuition was really applied toward supporting research and graduate programs. At the end of the day, I was happy to have gotten a lot out of my small state university education and to walk out without debt.
The performance was good overall, although it was slightly confusing that midway through chapter 5 Frank Bruni stopped reading and some other narrator started reading the remainder of the book. I wonder why that person wasn't credited and why Bruni stopped midway.
I am certainly going to share this book with peers.
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Conflicting Messages
This book is a mixed bag. It reads like a collection of witty newspaper articles, yet undermines its own message. The title of the book should really be “Where You Go is Not Who You’ll Be: As Long as You End Up Attending an Ivy School Down the Road.” For this lack of a cohesive theme, I give the book a low rating. Of note is that this book was originally published in 2015, but in 2020 it already feels outdated. For example, Bruni argues convincingly that Ivy schools are for rich kids who are one-dimensional. Apparently, Ivy U took note because in 2020, Ivy U now boasts that its typical financial aid package is over $57,000; 20% of families pay nothing; over 50% of students are of color; and there’s more diversity on campus than a tropical rain forest growing on a coral reef. And yet…has anything really changed? Not really. One could argue that the Ivys are even more one-dimensional than ever before. Who hasn’t volunteered 500 hours in a leadership role, started a club of three, is a concert violinist who is also a junior-level rodeo champion, all while claiming to be humble? Also, just ask the countless lost souls who’ve become cannon fodder in the highly selective admission’s game. The true story today is even more bleak than even Bruni could have imagined, and unfortunately his book does little to break the public’s stereotype.
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- Mr. Richard J. Pawlak
- 09-29-16
Too long
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I did not finish it. The point of the book seems to be that ivy league school are way over-rated. This I already knew. I don't need an entire book to tell me that.
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- Scott Pressly
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Required reading for all parents of juniors
Reading this book can help to restore the sanity of the school application process. The unnecessary pressure created by the process today is nuts. So happy to hear a voice of reason.
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I now have excitement about the college search
This book appeared at a most opportune time as we set out on college visits. I am working with my daughter to broaden her search and expectations about prospective schools. Many exciting options if one steps back and looks at what it is you really want college to be. This book confirmed my sense that a different approach to and assessment of the schools we look at will pan out to a richer experience. I am going to relax a bit and trust it will play out well.
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I am a 16 year old high school student and had to read this for an ap english class. Although the idea of a book like this is cool all it really ended up being was 240 pages of examples. The only reason I am using audible is because I have never been more bored by a book in my entire life and needed to listen to it. I would not recommend. Although I wouldn’t recommend it I definitely agree with points that were made in the book. However for a 16 year old this book was the most annoying and boring thing to be written.
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- Fun Shopper
- 11-30-21
The entirety of the book is summed up by the title
If you need proof at nauseam that students can be successful anywhere, you can find examples in this book. The first few chapters were a lot of listing of where president, ceos, etc went to school in order to make the point you can go anywhere and be successful - a good point but it became monotonous. The examples are unimportant since just as many could be found to highlight the talents and skills of ivy league students. The overall premise that society is over concerned with the reputation of schools is good but I didn’t feel the book offered too much other than explaining that singular point.
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- Mama fiedler
- 04-26-18
Excellent resource for the whole family
Wish i would have read this earlier in the process. This is a must read for kids and parents at the very beginning of the college process Freshman year!
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- Patricia Murray
- 03-11-24
Spot on perspective
A must read for all parents of high school aged children intending to engage in the US university admissions process
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- Tya
- 07-16-23
Super helpful
Ideas you think and should follow as opposed to getting caught up in the hype. Thank you for making it make sense and backing it up with details and metrics.
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