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Popes and the Papacy: A History | [The Great Courses]

Popes and the Papacy: A History

Despite the papacy's enormous influence, how much do you really know about this ancient and powerful institution? Catholics and non-Catholics alike will enjoy these 24 illuminating lectures about this remarkable institution. Professor Noble gives you priceless insights into the dramatic history of the papal office and the lives of the men who represented it. Filled with interesting stories and remarkable insights, this course promises to educate, enlighten, and entertain you.
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More than a billion Roman Catholics throughout the world today look to the pope for guidance and leadership. Despite the papacy's enormous influence, how much do you really know about this ancient and powerful institution?

Catholics and non-Catholics alike will enjoy these 24 illuminating lectures about this remarkable institution. Professor Noble gives you priceless insights into the dramatic history of the papal office and the lives of the men who represented it.

You'll follow four critical strands of papal history over 2,000 years: the history of the "Petrine" idea; the history of an institution; the history of popes and antipopes; the history of Western civilization; and you'll look inside the Vatican's doors and discover fresh views on the institution's people, ideas, traditions, and routines, as well as the important roles played by organizations like the Curia and the Secretariat of State. You'll investigate the mechanisms by which the church not only ministers to its worldwide flock but also deals with the practical realities of its administration.

Filled with interesting stories and remarkable insights, this course promises to educate, enlighten, and entertain you.

PLEASE NOTE: When you purchase this title, the accompanying reference material will be available in your Library section along with the audio.


©2006 The Teaching Company, LLC (P)2006 The Great Courses

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    David I. Williams Keithville, LA, United States 05-12-15
    David I. Williams Keithville, LA, United States 05-12-15 Member Since 2007
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    "Excellent Series"

    As always Dr. Noble presents an excellent series of lectures. In this series he covers a large period of history and navigates the interesting and sometimes convoluted world of the Papacy. He does it with his usual skill and humor. He is able to make difficult topics understandable for the average person. This series is highly recommended for anyone interested in one of the most important and interesting subjects in Western History.

    4 of 4 people found this review helpful
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    Amazon Customer 08-24-14 Member Since 2015
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    "Narrator of this book is Unbelievable"
    Would you recommend this audiobook to a friend? If so, why?

    Yes


    What was one of the most memorable moments of Popes and the Papacy: A History?

    I think when he discussed the move to Avignon.


    What about Professor Thomas F. X. Noble’s performance did you like?

    His lecture skills are truly amazing. The way Dr. Noble was able to take a large amount of content and explain in a way that was educational, informative and very very interesting. I've listened and been at many lectures and he is easily the best I have ever heard.


    Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?

    I think the Henry VIII Fiasco with trying to legitimatize a male heir was very entertaining.


    3 of 3 people found this review helpful
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    Christina United States 11-23-13
    Christina United States 11-23-13 Member Since 2013

    Say something about yourself!

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    "Informative, yet apologetic, study of papacy"

    First, the positive:
    Professor Noble is an engaging lecturer and clear cares and knows a lot about his subject. I order this lecture hoping for a more biographical approach to the different popes. However, this series is more about the politics, structure, history and form of the papacy. Even the the subject is more more complicated than I expected, I continued through the series, carried on the professors enthusiasm. I learned quite a bit, and even though I was a novice to the subject, I didn't feel the subject was presented above my head.

    For the less negative:
    The main problem I had with the lecture was that the professor approaches his subject from a very apologetic point of view. He is sympathetic to the pope's point of view and will relate good intentions to popes throughout history without evidence. He also somewhat glosses over the more corrupt history of certain popes, though to his credit, he does not ignore them entirely.

    I find the morally challenging aspects of history to be the most interesting, so in this way, I was disappointed. However, my main goal of listening to this lecture was to learn more about Catholic history, which I can say I did.

    7 of 8 people found this review helpful
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    Kindle Customer 12-23-14

    A learner, talker, and teacher.

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    "An excellent, non-apologetical overview"
    If you could sum up Popes and the Papacy: A History in three words, what would they be?

    Fascinating, engaging, impressive


    Who was your favorite character and why?

    Innocent III, because he represented the zenith of the papacy's influence on faith, politics, and culture.


    What does Professor Thomas F. X. Noble bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

    A broad perspective that doesn't get bogged down in the too-fine details, but rather keeps an eye on the overall themes and trajectory of the papacy's influence and reaction to developing Western Civilization.


    Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?

    His even-handed description of the Second Vatican Council, which has had the most impact on the Catholic Church in the 20th and 21st centuries.


    Any additional comments?

    This was my first Great Courses presentation, and I will most certainly be going back for more!

    2 of 2 people found this review helpful
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    Norman 04-29-14
    Norman 04-29-14 Member Since 2010
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    What did you love best about Popes and the Papacy: A History?

    I found this an excellent survey of the papacy and helped in placing popes in their historical context


    What about Professor Thomas F. X. Noble’s performance did you like?

    He has an easy to listen to style.


    2 of 2 people found this review helpful
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    Runefell FAIRMONT, MN, United States 05-20-14
    Runefell FAIRMONT, MN, United States 05-20-14 Member Since 2013
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    "More on the political history then the individuals"
    Any additional comments?

    This course is more about the papacy as an institution, and how it evolved and effected the world and political climate about it then it is about individual popes. It does mention specific individuals, of course, but when it does, it's usually just limited to how they affected the office and the church. As others have mentioned, it heavily leans towards the apologetic side, glossing over anything negative and quickly pointed out and emphasizing the positives of even the most corrupt popes.

    It does ended with Pope Benedict, before he retired, and it is rather amusing to hear the professor attempt make several predictions about the directions the said Pope might take.

    3 of 4 people found this review helpful
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    Amazon Customer 08-14-15
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    "Very General"
    What made the experience of listening to Popes and the Papacy: A History the most enjoyable?

    Some tidbits and revelations of the various eras and some of the individuals who served as Pope (or anti-pope) make this somewhat interesting.


    What did you like best about this story?

    A good intro to Popes and the papacy.


    What do you think the narrator could have done better?

    Had a clear plan, explained it to the listeners, and followed it. A simple chronology works, but it could have worked far better.


    Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?

    No.


    Any additional comments?

    Not sufficient detail on major issues, controversies, key players. This course could have served as the intro to a multi-part series of courses.

    0 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Patrick 08-05-15
    Patrick 08-05-15 Member Since 2009
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    "Disappointing"
    Would you try another book from The Great Courses and/or Professor Thomas F. X. Noble?

    I have read many of the Great Courses and will read a lot more. I will not buy any more from Professor Noble


    Has Popes and the Papacy: A History turned you off from other books in this genre?

    No. All of the other courses have been well researched and the topics presented with a minimum of bias. Since these are books about religions and their history, it is really important that they be presented that way.


    What didn’t you like about Professor Thomas F. X. Noble’s performance?

    His voice is a bit irritating and his attempts at humour fall somewhat flat.


    If you could play editor, what scene or scenes would you have cut from Popes and the Papacy: A History?

    Nothing to cut. Just a little less of a Roman Catholic bias, particularly when dealing with the 20th century and 21st century popes. If he can't have a good historians perspective for those popes that are in his lifetime, he should not have included them in this lecture series.


    Any additional comments?

    His handling of the early and Medieval popes was pretty good and seemed to be backed up by historical and archaeological evidence. However, he glossed over the anti-Semitism and seemed to want to highlight the accomplishments of some of the more corrupt popes (e.g Alexander the Sixth) while down-playing their crimes. With regards to the modern popes and the Catholic Church, he made only one passing reference to the paedophilia of priests and no reference to the lack of response form John Paul II or Benedict XVI to this issue. While condemning the critics of Pius XII, he seems oblivious to the idea perhaps that Pope Pius should have been more concerned with the plight of the Jews. Gypsies and Poles than in the welfare of the Catholic Church. He does even raise an eyebrow at the idea that Jesuits releasing portions of the Vatican records does not constitute a real investigation. It is possible that Pope Pius did nothing wrong, but to dismiss it outright I think, is to ignore legitimate concerns about his role in enabling the Nazis. I would prefer that the Great Courses have found someone not associated with a Jesuit University to cover this material.

    0 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Fran46 Charleston, SC United States 02-08-15
    Fran46 Charleston, SC United States 02-08-15
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    "Skips the Early Years; Lingers on the Recent"
    Would you say that listening to this book was time well-spent? Why or why not?

    I really was curious to learn about the early years of the church, but that didn't happen. Fortunately, I have a reference book "The Popes: Histories and Secrets"by Claudio Rendina. I had to read 250 pages of that book to supplement how this professor glossed over the first 1,000 years of this course. I wanted to know about priestly celibacy, non-existant role of women, etc. He covered the first millelium in a lecture and half; whereas he talked about the popes in my lifetime (68 years) in the last 5 lectures. Very disappointing.


    What was your reaction to the ending? (No spoilers please!)

    Don't tell me what I already lived through.


    What does Professor Thomas F. X. Noble bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

    As a professor from Notre Dame, I guess he has to speak glowingly about the recent popes and gloss over the early dissention and in-fighting.


    If this book were a movie would you go see it?

    No


    Any additional comments?

    Very disappointing; however, I'm sure devout Catholics would like it. This is not history; it's propaganda.

    0 of 2 people found this review helpful

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