In this episode, Jackson and Taylor discuss the book and movie Eileen, cigarette YouTuber Connie Ramos, the topic of absinthe, and more. They compare the Eileen book and movie, delve into the characters, and explore the themes and aesthetics of the story. The conversation also touches on the challenges of adapting Ottessa Moshfegh's unique style to the screen. They discuss their fascination with absinthe and its role in art and pop culture. The conversation delves into the history, cultural significance, and personal experiences with absinthe, exploring its origins, prohibition, rituals, and impact on art and creativity. They finally touch on the influence of Joni Mitchell's music and their desire for a collaboration between Lana Del Rey and Joni Mitchell. https://www.youtube.com/@connieramos/featured https://www.absinthefever.com/ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 04:18 Exploring Eileen: Book vs Movie 12:54 Aesthetics and themes of Eileen 22:33 The fascination with Connie Ramos and her YouTube content 38:51 Exploring the influence of absinthe in art and pop culture 59:06 Joni Mitchell

Jackson and Taylor discuss their common fear of developing schizophrenia and the early warning signs. They share a personal story of a night when Taylor thought she was going into psychosis. It turns out that her symptoms were caused by serotonin syndrome from medication. They also talk about their friendship and how they met in college. They discuss their first meeting in freshman year and their shared class. They also talk about their love for Indian food and how they romanticize their vices. They reflect on their long-distance friendship and the importance of staying connected. The conversation is filled with inside jokes and references to pop culture. In this final part of the conversation, Taylor and Jackson discuss various topics including their excitement to meet each other, their use of the Find My Friends app, their love for voice memos, their plans for the podcast, their favorite songs and albums, and their thoughts on Glee. They also express their desire to have Amberlynn Reid on the podcast.