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Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
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"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

Dr. Carli Anderson continues to examine Genesis 18-23 through Hebrew textual analysis, reframing Sarah, Hagar, and Abraham as parallel figures of faith whose choices, trials, and covenant roles reveal deeper layers of wisdom, agency, and trust in God’s promises.

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TIMECODE:

• 00:00 Part 2 - Dr. Carli Anderson
• 01:05 Midrash: What made Sarah laugh?
• 03:04 Reframing Hagar
• 05:57 Isaac is born and Ishamael needs a wife
• 06:59 Trying to understand “mocking”
• 08:07 New understanding of a very difficult verse
• 10:54 Move the boys so they both inherit
• 14:39 God tells us Sarah was right
• 16:06 Sarah willing to do the difficult things
• 18:21 Hagar’s desert expertise explains Ishamael’s posterity
• 24:44 Hagar as hero
• 27:15 Three stories, Three sources of hope
• 29:32 Parallels to the Savior
• 33:33 Hineni
• 35:08 Only son means unity between father and son
• 39:08 The beauty revealed in the Hebrew
• 42:40 What is Isaac thinking?
• 45:05 Isaac’s willingness
• 48:50 A raised knife
• 50:31 God loves a photo finish
• 55:09 Story for three major religions
• 56:53 Word play that points to Jesus Christ
• 1:00:47 The importance of Mount Moriah
• 1:04:24 End of Part 2 - Dr. Carli Anderson

Thanks to the followHIM team:
Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor
David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors
Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host
John Bytheway: Co-host
David Perry: Producer
Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

What happens when we read the stories of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar through an ancient lens instead of modern assumptions? Dr. Carli Anderson joins hosts Hank Smith and John Bytheway to explore the legal, and linguistic depth of these foundational narratives, revealing Sarah’s majesty, Hagar’s complexity, and the deeply personal, covenant-centered relationship God forms with each of them.

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TIMECODE:

• 00:00 Part 1 - Dr. Carli Anderson
• 01:31 Episode Teaser
• 03:56 Bio
• 05:12 Come, Follow Me Manual
• 06:58 Every word matters and word play
• 09:29 Hebrew acrostic poetry
• 10:14 Cultural weight of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar
• 13:09 Reframing Sarah
• 17:29 Sarah in Egypt
• 20:02 Story repeats
• 21:35 Sarah seen as royalty
• 23:11 Sarah makes a decision
• 27:51 The position of trusted servants
• 30:28 A real tragedy, it seems
• 33:51 What Hagar knows
• 38:36 Not knowing what is on the next page
• 39:35 Ancient family lines defined
• 42:03 Three transformative stories
• 43:39 A sister’s similar experience with the Lord
• 46:09 Hugh B. Brown’s experience with the Gardener
• 51:37 Sarah keeps the faith (loyalty + courage)
• 54:26 Sarah as queen
• 56:54 Dramatic irony with the binding of Isaac
• 1:00:06 Parallel laughing
• 1:04:04 The Lord specializing in the “impossible”
• 1:06:27 Archetypal story
• 1:08:54 “Jesus’s dumb idea”
• 1:13:04 End of Part 1 - Dr. Carli Anderson

Thanks to the followHIM team:
Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor
David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors
Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host
John Bytheway: Co-host
David Perry: Producer
Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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Thanks to the followHIM team:
Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor
David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors
Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host
John Bytheway: Co-host
David Perry: Producer
Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

Dr. Jenae Nelson weaves Genesis 12-17 with Abraham 1-2 with her own “out of order” life story to show how covenants, divine timing, and wilderness seasons reveal that the ultimate reward of faith is a living relationship with Jesus Christ.

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TIMECODE
00:00 Part 2 - Dr. Jenae Nelson
03:16 Patience for promised blessings
04:10 Life experiences not in the order expected
09:22 Souls that were won
12:15 Why covenants?
15:29 Elder Renlund on power through covenants
18:48 Abraham and Lot divide the land
22:29 Cutting a covenant
26:36 The Sea of Galilee vs The Dead Sea
30:58 The paradox of giving
33:45 Purpose at the intersection of gifts and the world
35:15 Where does our tent face?
39:52 Tent stories
42:04 Faith not in outcomes
44:44 Why obedience?
47:01 God expands and multiplies via covenant
50:44 Hope is what you need in the darkest times
54:11 Encouragement for those in difficult times
59:02 Unprofitable servants and promises kept
1:04:24 End of Part 2 - Dr. Jenae Nelson


Thanks to the followHIM team:
Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor
David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors
Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host
John Bytheway: Co-host
David Perry: Producer
Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

What if becoming who God is calling you to be requires leaving the survival version of yourself, not just a physical location? Dr. Jenae Nelson explores Abraham’s journey as a path toward covenant identity, healing from trauma, and claiming priesthood power, weaving scripture with her own story of loss, faith, and courageous belonging.

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TIMECODE

• 00:00 Part 1 - Dr. Jenae Nelson
• 01:56 Episode Teaser
• 02:36 Bio
• 04:30 Come, Follow Me Manual
• 05:30 Abandoned children and tokens
• 07:56 Father of three religions
• 11:17 Restoring to the Abrahamic Covenant
• 16:14 Understanding the Gathering
• 19:15 President Oaks and Priesthood Authority
• 22:20 Blessings of our fathers (and mothers)
• 25:48 Becoming a change maker
• 29:53 Eternal identity
• 34:40 The Comeback Podcast
• 37:30 The capacity for righteous living
• 40:01 Survival skills and leaving behind old tools
• 43:23 What is a boundary?
• 46:28 Why Abraham? And unanswered prayers
• 51:43 Mistaken identity
• 56:58 A new convert
• 1:02:32 The Book of Mormon speaks to Israel
• 1:06:09 Faith requires uncertainty
• 1:10:03 The Abrahamic Covenant and becoming a finisher
• 1:14: 58 End of Part 1 - Dr. Jenae Nelson

Thanks to the followHIM team:

Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor

David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors

Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host

John Bytheway: Co-host

David Perry: Producer

Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor

Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes

Will Stoughton: Video Editor

Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website

Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts

Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts

Heather Barlow: Communications Director

Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald

https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

“Thoughts to Keep in Mind” are simple themes in Come, Follow Me that help make the scriptures clearer, more Christ-centered, and easier to apply to daily life. This year, Dr. Ross Baron is the guest on all eight episodes.

YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/e4sxSX6rUVY

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David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors
Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host
John Bytheway: Co-host
David Perry: Producer
Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika : Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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Thanks to the followHIM team:
Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor
David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors
Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host
John Bytheway: Co-host
David Perry: Producer
Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com