Alix and Kayla dive deep into the wild, chaotic, endlessly fascinating lore of Caroline Calloway — from Instagram fame and ghostwritten captions to book-deal drama, retreat controversies, and the blurred lines between “scam,” self-mythology, and survival. The wives break down the friendship between Caroline and Natalie Beach, the homoerotic tension, the internet cancellation, the workshops, the snake-oil era, and why queer audiences are obsessed with this story.

If you love scammers, internet culture, WLW lore, or messy influencer history, this episode is for you.

00:00 – Intro: Reviews, comments & community love
01:30 – Who is Caroline Calloway?
01:50 – Scam or Stan game (NFTs, Erewhon smoothies, retreats, astrology apps)
04:50 – Breakup brands, viral masterclasses & influencer culture
10:00 – Why Caroline’s story is “entertaining, not dangerous”
11:00 – The WLW lore + homoerotic friendship dynamic
18:00 – How Caroline built her Cambridge-era Instagram persona
21:00 – Natalie ghostwrites captions & the early partnership
28:20 – The $500K book deal & $100K advance
30:30 – Addiction, missed deadlines & the fallout
34:20 – Whose side are you on?
35:20 – The infamous “workshops”
37:00 – Is it a scam if people willingly pay?
38:20 – The cancellations & venue chaos
42:30 – Snake oil, villain era & Caroline’s pivot
43:40 – “I Was Caroline Calloway” & Natalie’s takedown essay
48:40 – Natalie’s book deal + riding coattails
49:55 – Caroline’s tragic family news amid cancellation
53:45 – Obsession, shamelessness & survival mode
54:40 – New York era, OnlyFans, and rising again

#CarolineCalloway #ScamOrStan #InfluencerCulture #NatalieBeach #InternetDrama #Podcast #QueerPodcast #WLWLore #MessyInfluencers #BookDealDrama #CarlowayLore #OnlineScams #InternetHistory #WomenWhoWrite #CouplePodcast #AlixAndKayla

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If you’ve ever argued about groceries, avoided showing your partner your skincare receipts, or wondered how to merge finances without losing your mind, this one’s for you! From $300 facials to $3,000 handbags, Venmo-requesting girlfriends, U-Haul financial disasters, queer throuple budgeting, and how not to commit tax fraud as a married couple — this episode has answers to the questions YOU submitted about managing money.

01:35 – Splurge or Save: Dyson dryers, facials & quiet luxury
05:26 – $3,000 handbags & the lost purse saga
08:30 – Gear talk, e-bikes & used surfboards
10:23 – Listener Q&A: Power dynamics & “my treat” vacations
16:55 – Merging finances without losing your identity
23:04 – Allowances, budgets & guilt-free spending
31:16 – Queer throuple money management
36:12 – Financial secrets & student loan surprises
41:46 – Investing, retirement, & balancing present vs future
45:01 – Gift giving gone wrong: The $1200 suit
49:03 – U-Hauling & the IKEA spending spiral
51:31 – Eloping, wedding budgets & cake regrets
57:54 – Who’s the problem? (Hint: taxes.)
01:01:00 – Closing & community love

#LGBTQPodcast #QueerCouples #LesbianPodcast #MoneyTalks #RelationshipAdvice #WivesNotSisters #BudgetingTips #CouplesFinance #QueerLove #PodcastEpisode

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In this episode, Alix & Kayla dive into the internet discourse that blew up:
Are lesbians allowed to have dating preferences—specifically around bi women or trans women—without being labeled discriminatory or TERFs? Check out the post that started the comments war HERE!

This conversation isn’t about exclusion—it's about autonomy, nuance, and consent in queer dating.

🎙️ Whether you agree or disagree, you’ll want to be in the comments for this one.

02:00 – Why real conversations matter
02:32 – Gay This or That (gay brunch vs. gay rave, U-Haul vs. slow burn, etc.)
06:10 – Episode topic reveal: The TERF Talk
07:40 – The viral reel that started everything
10:39 – When “preferences” go viral
12:15 – What TERF actually means
16:44 – “Are we TERFs?”
22:28 – Sexual preference vs. discrimination
30:02 – Should we question our preferences?
38:30 – “Why say it out loud?”
43:26 – Preferences in queer culture (femme for femme, masc, etc.)
51:06 – Why gay men don’t get this backlash
56:21 – My body, my choice—also applies to dating
01:02:17 – Who’s the problem? (Queer Ultimatum being cancelled)

#LGBTQ #LesbianPodcast #QueerDating #TERFConversation #DatingPreferences #QueerRepresentation #PodcastClips #WLW #LGBTQPodcast #BuzzsproutPodcast #QueerCommunity #BiWomen #TransWomenAreWomen #MyBodyMyChoice #Sapphic

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