A Bhagavad-gītā-level reality check: the world we experience isn't "illusion" in the lazy, dismissive sense—it's illusion like a reflection. Consistent. Coherent. Convincing. And still untouchable. Like an upside-down tree mirrored in water, it looks real enough to reach for… but you can't taste its fruit. A reflected rose has no aroma. And a reflected life, no matter how intensely we chase it, can't deliver the ananda we're actually built for. But the reflection does point to a reality worth pursuing.

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A higher spiritual taste doesn't negotiate with desire—it demotes it. From Govardhan Ecovillage in Maharashtra, Raghunath and Kaustubha riff on William James (father of modern psychology), the bhakti renaissance in India, and the strange way spiritual culture can make renunciation feel effortless: not by suppression, but by a new attraction taking the center of the heart. Along the way: kirtan "clubbing," deep-rooted devotion that suddenly shoots up like bamboo, and a reminder from the Bhāgavatam that when Krishna's touches the soul, even heaven, power, siddhis, and liberation start to look like broken glass next to the real thing.

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A modern seeker walks away from a high-pressure career and an ancient Sanskrit text tells a story about giving up one's egoistic false strength. Recorded live from Govardhan Eco-Village, this episode brings together Grace's journey from corporate life to devotional service and Krishna's confrontation with the serpent Kāliya—revealing how inner clarity often arrives when our usual strategies fail.

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