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Dr Justine Shotton is a vet with well over 15 years’ experience across the sectors,

Justine's impressive and varied career includes being eleceted to become the Junior Vice President of the British Veterinary Association, in 2020.

Outside of work, Justine is an avid traveller, having visited 50+ countries. She’ s also a keen sportswoman, enjoying kitesurfing, running and now Olympic Weightlifting!

We talk about all of this, how Justine has had to adapt and embrace regular media appearances, her important work in raising awareness of important issues through the BVA, her exciting new role and perspectives on building a sustainable future.

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Dr Mia Eisenstadt is a psychologist, researcher, coach and award-winning entrepreneur, having recently founded the Fatherli app. Mia is on a mission to help others overcome difficult situations to get the most out of life.

Mia has a phd in child and adolescent mental health and has trained in coaching, reflective parenting and dialogue methods. She studied at the evidence based practice unit, a partnership between the Anna Freud centre and UCL Brain Sciences in London.

Mia is passionate about fathers' mental health and wellbeing and the role that fathers can play in supporting the wellbeing of their children and families.

We talk about all of this and so much more, including future tech and the opportunities and challenges faced by ai, we also talk song-writing, sourdough and the importance of being over doing.

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School is out for summer and so is What The Forty, but not before you get a chance to re-listen to a few clips from the first 5 episodes featuring incredible game-changers, who happen to be 40 ish..

In this episode, Rich introduces clips from interviews featured on last five episodes.

More What The Forty interview based episodes will land in late July..