Zach finally lands a new job and Jeff talks about the need for solitude for spiritual practice and creative work. He mentions the idea of a secular monastery or hermitage to give western spiritual seekers a place of refuge away from the working world to focus on life's biggest questions.

🎵 Jeff's BOXOMYLK music ALL 12 Albums LIVE!
🌐 Jeff's website
🎸 Garbage - Live in 2023
🎸 ZZ Top Live
📺 Seinfeld - J. Peterman
🎤 Jack Conte, Founder of Patreon - SXSW 2024 Keynote
🤲 Jeff's Article on the Simian Line in Palmistry
🦥 Secular Monasteries - The Wise Sloth
🧘 Secular Monasteries for an Awakened Public
🐦‍⬛ Raven's Bread Ministries
📺 Severance TV Show
🌳 Avatar Movie
👁️ John Berger's Ways of Seeing (1972)
🎥 Brainwashed: Sex Camera Power (2023)
📚 John Berger: Why We Look at Animals
🍽️ Pêche Restaurant in Palisade, CO

00:00 Introduction and Catching Up
15:40 Jeff's Freelance Scam
26:28 Zach Gets a New Job!
35:30 The Pressure on Men to Work and Provide
45:40 Authenticity in the Work/Life Balance
48:35 Solitude, Retreats, and Secular Monasteries
1:05:05 Jeff's Spiritual Quest and Road Trip Inspirations
1:16:56 Inspirations for the Week

🎙️ Podcast Website: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com
🖥️ Jeff’s Website: https://jefffinley.org
📺 Jeff’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/jeff_finley
🐠 Zach’s Website: https://fightingfish.studio

Zach and Jeff talk about the pitfalls of perfectionism and how the youthful DIY punk spirit can help you overcome it. Then Zach gets curious about Jeff's epic road trip in 2015 after his spiritual awakening. They discuss synchronicity, lucid dreaming and astral projection, relationship dynamics, and the law of attraction and repulsion.

Episode Link: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com/episodes/08

• Jeff’s Weekly Newsletter
• Jeff’s blog post about perfectionism
• Ali Abdaal - Perfectionism is Ruining Your Life
• Jeff's BOXOMYLK music on Bandcamp
• The DIY punk video that inspired Jeff to start a band
• Spike Jonze documentary
• Berea Fest 2008 - short DIY documentary
• Paul Baribeau at Berea Fest
• Good Luck performing at Berea Fest
• Woody Guthrie (This Land is Your Land)
• Robert Rodriguez discusses his first film
• Dropkick Murphys
• Garbage
• Jeff’s Experience with Soul Retrieval
• Sean Webb’s book - How Emotions Work in Humans and Computers
• Sean Webb’s personal enlightenment experience
• Richard Rohr - True Self, False Self audiobook
• Maker Mistaker Podcast
• Jeff’s Initial Blog Post announcing his road trip
• Jeff’s road trip update post
• The Monroe Institute
• Robert Monroe’s book “Journeys Out of the Body”
• Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
• Todd Acamesis - Synchronicity and Living a Magic Life podcast
• Life Path Number (Numerology) calculator
• The Anxious Generation
• On the Anxious Generation (Default Blog)
• The Righteous Mind
• Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving
• We Are Legion (We Are Bob)

00:00 Intro and the Frustrations of Perfectionism
14:30 Embracing the Punk Rock Spirit: Creating Without Perfectionism
40:22 Jeff's Road Trip: Embarking on a Journey of Self-Discovery
57:55 The Dynamics of Seeking Relationships
01:05:51 The Importance of Being Open to Experiences

🎙️ Podcast Website: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com
🖥️ Jeff’s Website: https://jefffinley.org
📺 Jeff’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/jeff_finley
🐠 Zach’s Website: https://fightingfish.studio

Episode 7 of the We Should Be Working Podcast. Zach updates us on his job search and Jeff talks about his awakening experience in 2013 that changed his life. They discuss depression, habit change, morning routines, meditation, and the decision to leave his old life behind.

Episode Summary

Zach and Jeff go over personal work updates including Zach's frustrations with his job search and his unique skill set in marketing and training. Jeff shares his own job search experiences and the difficulties he encounters in finding the right opportunity. They discuss the importance of being persistent and the boundaries of professional communication. The conversation also touches on managing stress and anxiety, as well as the different approaches Zach and Jeff take in dealing with their racing thoughts. Finally, Jeff reflects on his journey and the decision to leave Go Media. Jeff's talks about his experience with feeling overwhelmed and depressed, the impact of work and personal life on his mental health, finding support and coping mechanisms, and the inspiration he has found in books and other content for personal growth. Thrash on!

00:00 Introduction and Discussion of March Madness
10:29 Jeff's Creative Accomplishments and Financial Insecurity
29:41 Living in the Present Moment and Seeking Support
37:18 Overcoming Overwhelm and Apathy
46:16 Biting Off More Than You Can Chew
53:01 The Power of Meditation and Morning Routines
59:48 Inspirations of the Week

• Jeff's BOXOMYLK music on Bandcamp
• Jeff’s Apparel book
• Tim Ferris
• Nathan Berry - Authority and Convert Kit
• Passive Income Podcast
• Sean Webb of I AM Spirituality Podcast (my first intro to Spirituality)
• Sean Webb’s book - How Emotions Work in Humans and Computers
• Jeff’s Book - Wake Up: The Morning Routine That Will Change Your Life
• The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod
• Zen Habits
• The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg
• The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
• Jack Conte (CEO Patreon) - Death of the Follower & the Future of Creativity on the Web
• Oppenheimer
• Shogun
• Project Hail Mary (by Andy Weir)
• The Martian

🎙️ Podcast Website: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com
🖥️ Jeff’s Website: https://jefffinley.org
📺 Jeff’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/jeff_finley
🐠 Zach’s Website: https://fightingfish.studio