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A terror attack strikes a peaceful protest in Colorado calling for the release of hostages, while efforts to finalise a deal between Israel and Hamas remain deadlocked. Meanwhile, humanitarian aid begins to trickle into Gaza and a series of violent, and disputed, events ends in deadly consequences for Palestinian civilians.

Yonit and Jonathan discuss all that, and also step back from the frontlines to look at the economic toll of a war that has lasted more than 600 days. They are joined by Dr. Nadine Baudot-Trajtenberg, former deputy governor of the Bank of Israel, for a sobering conversation on the social and financial cost of protracted conflict—borne most heavily by those sent to fight, and those left waiting at home.

Dr. Nadine Baudot-Trajtenberg is a leading Israeli economist and former Deputy Governor of the Bank of Israel, where she also served briefly as Acting Governor. A Rhodes Scholar and Harvard Ph.D., she has held senior roles in both the public and private sectors, including at Bank Leumi, Bank Hapoalim, and Israel’s largest pension fund. She currently teaches economics at Reichman University and serves on several corporate boards, including Cellebrite. Known for her expertise in monetary policy and financial regulation, she is also married to economist and former Knesset member Manuel Trajtenberg.

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As Israel prepares for the festival of Shavuot, the country holds its breath for news on a hostage deal that could finally bring an end to the war in Gaza. Meanwhile, airstrikes continue, and Benjamin Netanyahu openly weighs the controversial possibility of a solo Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear sites—despite President Trump’s evident reluctance. To unpack the chaos and complexity of Trump’s Middle East strategy, Israel’s options on Iran, and intriguing new revelations about President Biden’s health, we’re joined by Jake Sullivan, former National Security Advisor under President Biden.

Jake Sullivan is an American foreign policy expert who served as National Security Advisor to President Joe Biden, becoming one of the youngest individuals ever to hold the position. Previously, he was a senior policy advisor during the Obama administration, playing a central role in negotiating the 2015 Iran nuclear deal. Currently, Sullivan is the Kissinger Professor of Statecraft and World Order at Harvard Kennedy School, where he continues to influence conversations on diplomacy, international security, and global strategy.

Two shot dead in Washington DC, in an attack that shocked many but surprised few. Meanwhile, a string of Israel’s longtime allies denounce the country over the blockade of aid to Gaza, even threatening sanctions. Yonit and Jonathan discuss what’s next and what to make of the partial resumption of humanitarian aid. Plus, they’re joined by fellow Jewish podcaster Jonah Platt, taking the temperature at this moment of angst and revealing what it means to be a Jew in Hollywood in 2025—the challenges and the moments of light.

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Jonah Platt is an American actor, singer, writer, and director known for his role as Fiyero in Wicked on Broadway. He’s appeared in TV shows like The Office and Curb Your Enthusiasm, and written for Family Guy. An advocate for Jewish identity and education, Platt hosts the podcast Being Jewish with Jonah Platt and actively participates in various Jewish organizations. He hails from a family deeply rooted in the entertainment industry, being the son of producer Marc Platt and brother to actor Ben Platt.