We talk with Elle Limebear and Nathan Jess about their new song Before. It's a song about giving thanks before the good, and the bad, even in the smallest moments we face. Listen to Before here.

Elle Limebear is a British worship leader, artist and storyteller, residing in Brighton with her husband Tom and their two children.

Elle has been writing music and leading worship since her teenage years. After spending over a decade touring across the USA and Europe, she remains deeply connected to her British roots. Passionate about enriching the musical faith landscape in her homeland, she is determined to make a unique and lasting impact on both the British and global music scenes.

Nathan Jess is a Grammy nominated songwriter based in Northern Ireland. He is quickly becoming a songwriter and worship leader renowned for his diligence and fervour in waiting on God and creating space during his songs and his leading for those present to encounter God.

Nathan’s songs have been recorded by many artists including MAN OF YOUR WORD (Maverick City Music), WATERS (Junior Garr) and PROMISED LAND (Tribl). He has also toured alongside artists such as Rend Collective, Phil Wickham and Martin Smith.

Karen Swallow Prior, Ph. D., is a reader, writer, and speaker. She is the author of You Have a Calling: Finding your Vocation in the True, Good, and Beautiful (Brazos 2025). The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis (Brazos 2023); On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books (Brazos 2018); Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More—Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist (Thomas Nelson 2014); and Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me (T. S. Poetry Press 2012).

She is co-editor of Cultural Engagement: A Crash Course in Contemporary Issues (Zondervan 2019) and has contributed to numerous other books. She has a monthly column for Religion News Service.

Her writing has appeared at Christianity Today, New York Times, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, First Things, Vox, Think Christian, The Gospel Coalition, and various other places. She hosted the podcast Jane and Jesus.

Dave Herring is a photographer & videographer with a passion for capturing the rugged beauty and diverse places of the western United States. Primarily using Leica cameras (as well Hasselblad and Rolleiflex), he tries to create captivating and scroll-stopping visuals in both film and digital formats.Dave loves blending the timelessness of film with the efficiency of modern sensors.

While much of his work centers around adventure photography, he's well versed in capturing people, lifestyle, editorial, commercial, and other genres of photography as well. His unrelenting eye for detail and creative approach to storytelling has led him to work with nationally recognized brands, delivering compelling visual creative that resonates with diverse audience.

Dave's love for photography and videography is not just a career but his lifestyle, reflected on his YouTube channel where he shares insights, tutorials, and authentic creative philosophy. He's also founded Very Good Presets, where he helps empower photographers with highly detailed color grades for their photos.

Most importantly, Dave is a family man, finding inspiration in the balance of his professional pursuits with his personal life. Whether he's exploring the vastness of the American West or working on commercial projects, Dave trys to brings passion, experience, and a unique perspective to everything he does. This is why he always has his heart, mind, and hands engaged in creating something every day.

Anthony Russo, the author of the bestselling Bible Is Funny Card Game, is the creator of The Bible Is Funny Instagram and one half of the duo Isaac Improv, which offers clean comedy content. A popular comedy performer, Russo grew up memorizing Scripture—partly to understand God’s Word, but probably more so to earn badges for his Awana vest. He is an ordained minister who served on church staff for nearly two decades. He and his wife, Rachael, live in Seminole, Florida, and have two children.

Matt Doering is a singer/songwriter & producer living in Austin, Texas with his wife, daughters, & their dog Boomer.For over 6 years, Matt has been a recording artist, sharing his music across the US with audiences who need a kind & restful reminder that in the ups & downs of life, there is beauty & love to be found.

He has recorded 3 EP’s & is currently in the process of releasing his 4th which shares a snapshot of faith & the growing pains of life. We talk about his 4th EP Developing.

Andrew Arndt is the Lead Pastor of New Life East (one of seven congregations of New Life Church in Colorado Springs), where he also hosts the Essential Church podcast, a weekly conversation designed to strengthen the thinking of church and ministry leaders. Prior to joining New Life’s team, he served as Lead Pastor of Bloom Church: a neo-monastic, charismatic, liturgical, justice-driven network of house churches in Denver. He received his MDiv from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, is working on his Doctor of Ministry at Western Theological Seminary, and has written for Missio Alliance, Patheos, The Other Journal, and Mere Orthodoxy. He lives in the Springs with his wife Mandi and their four kids.

He's the author of 3 books including the one we discuss in this episode, A Strange and Glorious Light:How the Story of Jesus Changes the Way We See Everything.

David Zahl is the director of Mockingbird Ministries and editor-in-chief of the Mocking Bird website. Born in New York City and brought up elsewhere, David graduated from Georgetown University in 2001, and then worked for several years as a youth minister in New England. In 2007 he founded Mockingbird in NYC.

We talk about his latest book The Big Relief:the urgency of grace for a worn-out world.

Today David and his wife Cate reside in Charlottesville, VA with their three boys, where David also serves on the staff of Christ Episcopal Church. He is also the author of A Mess of Help: From the Crucified Soul of Rock N’ Roll and co-author of Law and Gospel: A Theology for Sinners (and Saints). His book, Seculosity: How Career, Parenting, Technlogy, Food, Politics, and Romance Became Our New Religion and What To Do About It, appeared in 2019 from Fortress Press.

Even after all these years, he’s still mourning the end of Calvin and Hobbes (and hoping that Morrissey and Marr will bury the hatchet). His favorite theologian is probably a cross between Johnny Cash, Flannery O’Connor and his brother Simeon.

Chris Morris is a passionate mental health advocate dedicated to promoting understanding of mental health issues within the church. Because of a lifelong struggle with depression and suicidality, Chris became committed to breaking down the stigma surrounding mental health and encouraging others to seek after holistic health. We talk about his book Resilient and Redeemed: Lessons about Suicidality and Depression from the Psych Ward

As a writer and speaker, Chris has shared his personal story and insights with audiences across the country, inspiring many individuals to take control of their own health, break free from poor theological teaching placed upon them, and seek the support they need. He has published several books on mental health and his work has been featured in a number of media outlets, including CrossWalk, The Mighty, and Fathom Magazine.

Chris is deeply committed to creating a more compassionate and supportive world and church for individuals living with mental health issues. Through his writing and speaking, he is a powerful voice for change and a beacon of hope for those in need.