In this episode of This Strange Land, Jason Simon and Jason Jensen dive deep into what real accompaniment looks like in today’s Church. They explore why traditional ministry metrics are no longer enough, how parishes can cultivate “accompaniment capacity,” and why curiosity, presence, and trust in the Holy Spirit are essential to walking with people far from faith. Together, they unpack the shift from program-driven ministry to people-driven mission — one authentic relationship at a time.

Guest Bio Jason Simon is the President of the Evangelical Catholic, an organization dedicated to forming missionary disciples and equipping parishes, campuses, and dioceses for evangelization. Based in Madison, Wisconsin, Jason has spent decades helping Catholic leaders build cultures of accompaniment, discipleship, and mission. He and his wife, Grace, have been married for 27 years and are parents to six children.

Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction to the Episode

00:53 – Jason Simon Introduces Himself

02:00 – What Excites Jason About the Church Today

03:33 – The Changing Language of Evangelization

04:20 – The New Shift: Equipping the Laity

06:00 – Luis Shares His Parallel Conversion Story

09:00 – The Rise of “Accompaniment” as a Core Concept

10:50 – Introducing the Idea of Accompaniment Capacity

14:45 – Jason Reacts to Accompaniment Capacity

15:40 – A Powerful Example of Real Accompaniment

18:00 – “The Measure Is Love, Not Numbers”

19:45 – Mission Capacity vs. Accompaniment

23:00 – The Fear of Letting Go of Old Metrics

25:00 – Why Current Metrics Don’t Measure Evangelical Vibrancy

30:00 – How Leaders Should Track Actual Mission Stories

33:00 – Why Pastors Must Invest in the 5%

36:30 – The Limits of Programs Like Alpha

38:45 – Luis on the Truth Pastors Must Face

45:00 – What Qualitative Accompaniment Looks Like

47:00 – Curiosity as the Superpower of Accompaniment

50:00 – Compassionate Curiosity & Seeing People as God Sees Them

56:00 – How Being Seen Heals the Accompanier Too

01:00:00 – Why Apologetics Often Short-Circuits Accompaniment

01:05:30 – Identity, Shame Culture, and Evangelization Today

01:14:00 – Apprenticing Under Jesus as the Framework for Discipleship

01:20:00 – Hope + Radical Acceptance

01:33:00 – Helping People See Jesus as Personally Relevant

01:43:00 – Final Reflections on the Slow Work of Accompaniment

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In this episode of This Strange Land, Jake Khym joins us to explore how a Gospel worldview can transform our identity, relationships, and spiritual lives. He and Jason unpack how to invite others into Kingdom reality, why identity is central to healing, and how our loves and sins reveal our deepest beliefs about who God is. Together, they reflect on how healing happens, how to pray with expectation, and why even the “crumbs” of God are enough to change everything. This is a deep and honest conversation about discipleship, desire, and discovering who we truly are in Christ.

Jake is a Catholic leader with over 20 years experience in various ministry settings. He has a Masters Degree in Counselling Psychology and a Bachelor of Arts in Theology with a concentration in Catechetics. Jake has worked in adult faith formation, seminarian and priestly formation, diocesan evangelization, catechesis, RCIA, retreat ministry, and has a private counseling practice for over 15 years. He is the cofounder of Life Restoration Ministries.

0:00 - Introducing Jake Khym 02:10 - How Jake & Jason see the world 05:11 - Inviting people into a Biblical worldview 13:41 - Who do you follow? 15:41 - How to engage with people 23:00 - What are things that bring us into a Kingdom reality? 34:20 - The power of understanding who you are 50:20 - Discovering your identity enables you to discover God 59:00 - How what we love & where we sin reveals our faith 1:03:57 - What we believe about ourselves is at the heart of why we’re sinning 1:05 - What healing really is 1:14:11 - How to pray & experience the ‘crumbs’ of God 1:32:33 - Last thoughts from Jake & Jason

Restore the Glory Podcast - https://www.restoretheglorypodcast.com/ Life Restoration Ministries - https://www.liferestoration.ca/ Franciscan University - https://franciscan.edu/ Abiding Together Podcast - https://www.abidingtogetherpodcast.com/ Sprints with Glass Canvas - https://www.glasscanvas.io/sprints

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In this episode of This Strange Land, we sit down with members of the Brotherhood of Hope to explore how we can live faithfully in today’s postmodern, often pagan, culture. We talk about the core beliefs of the Brotherhood, the deep hunger people have to be seen, to know their identity, hear truth, and be in authentic community. We also dive into the prophetic role of the Church today—what it means to speak truth in love, the risks involved, and hear stories from the Brotherhood’s experience on college campuses. From conversations about sin to living in the Spirit and expecting God to speak, this is a rich and stirring look at what it means to follow Christ with courage and hope in this strange land.

0:00 - Introducing Brotherhood of Hope 01:52 - BoH core beliefs 03:33 - The pagan culture we find ourselves in 08:27 - Postmodern vs. modernism 12:46 - What are people actually looking for? 17:00 - The actual value of community 21:40 - Shame, guilt, and identity 25:07 - How to approach a conversation about sin 31:12 - The prophetic gift of BoH 50:00 - Reacting to the Second Vatican Council 56:00 - What does risk have to do with being a prophet? 1:11:45 - How can we start living this? 1:25:13 - How to remain living in the Spirit 1:29:26 - Expecting God to speak

“We’re no longer in Jerusalem. We’re in Babylon. We’re a Christian people no longer living in Christendom – we’re living in a foreign land.” – Brother Clinton

Brotherhood of Hope – https://brotherhoodofhope.org/life Dallas Willard – https://www.amazon.ca/Hearing-God-Dallas-Willard/dp/0830835695 Eric Chow – https://weareproclaim.com/

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