On the Underdog Physician Podcast, Clint Harris describes moving from 16 years in cardiac device medical sales—implanting pacemakers and defibrillators with heavy call, travel, and burnout—to building a real estate career focused on time, location, and financial independence. After starting with single-family and small multifamily, he scaled beach short-term rentals to 14 units, then realized the model still left him “on call,” leading him to build a property management company and pivot to passive strategies. He explains how syndication lets busy professionals contribute capital while operators provide time and experience, and details Nomad Capital’s approach of converting vacant big-box retail (e.g., a Kmart bought for $1.5M with $2.5M rehab, later appraising at $9M) into climate-controlled self-storage across the Southeast, now totaling $150M AUM with goals of $500M in five years and $1B in ten. Clint outlines why he prefers storage (sticky tenants, month-to-month pricing, fewer operational headaches), the long lease-up timeline risk, industry consolidation, the importance of location and feasibility studies, team-building principles, and his personal focus on family time and building a legacy centered on character and purpose rather than money.

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

00:55 From Pre Med to Cardiac Sales

01:57 Why Real Estate Became Plan B

03:18 Airbnb Success and Burnout

05:17 Buying Back Time with Partners

06:16 First Kmart Storage Conversion

06:50 Syndication Explained for Docs

08:27 Leaving Medical Sales for Nomad

10:59 Why Self Storage Wins for Him

14:53 Value Add Model and Tax Benefits

16:23 Demand Drivers and Customer Trends

18:15 Risks and Economic Headwinds

19:46 Where Storage Is Heading Next

20:50 Long Term Investing Mindset

23:17 Building the Right Team

25:54 Raising Capital and Track Record

28:19 Setbacks and Key Lessons Learned

30:15 Day to Day Schedule and Family

33:04 Legacy and Closing Thoughts

On the Underdog Physician Podcast, host Anish interviews Dr. Chiagozie Fawole, a Johns Hopkins–trained pediatric anesthesiologist, real estate investor, and founder of Savvy Docs, about building wealth outside medicine through real estate and business acquisitions. Born and raised in Nigeria, she moved to the U.S. at 16, studied at Howard, attended Johns Hopkins for medical school, initially pursued neurosurgery but did not match, and chose anesthesia for a better lifestyle. She shares her first entrepreneurial experience—a long-distance house flip during residency that lost $10,000 due largely to not staging—then explains moving into multifamily syndication, BRRRR duplexes in Syracuse, and a 2021 pivot to short-term rentals. She discusses shifting focus to acquiring “boring” cash-flowing businesses using SBA financing, her acquisition buy box (≥$1M revenue, ≥10 employees, 5–10+ years old, strong leadership bench), and using AI to improve operations, plus how family support, delegation, and automation help her manage time.

00:00 Meet Dr. Chiagozie Fawole

00:51 From Nigeria to Hopkins

01:32 Finding Anesthesia

02:42 Lifestyle by Design

03:52 First Real Estate Flip

06:12 Losing 10K Lessons

07:35 Scaling to Multifamily

08:37 Syndication Mindset

10:51 BRRRR to Short Term

11:34 Why Real Estate Focus

13:31 Pivot to Acquisitions

15:58 Buy Box Criteria

18:26 AI and Future Proofing

19:58 Team and Automation

22:04 Savvy Docs Mission

23:42 Work Life Counterbalance

25:54 Books and Mindset

26:13 Wealthier Doctors Better Care

26:57 Closing Thoughts

On the Underdog Physician podcast, Dr. Amna Shabbir— board-certified internal medicine and geriatrics physician, speaker, coach, and host of Success Reimagined—shares how pandemic stress, added family responsibilities, and severe postpartum depression led her to reframe her career, pursue a geriatrics fellowship as a healing reset, and step away from core academia to part-time post-acute/long-term care. She distinguishes moral injury from burnout as cumulative distress. She discusses perfectionism versus healthy striving, emphasizing intrinsic motivation, learning to fail, and risk tolerance for entrepreneurship. Amna describes the Early Career Physician Institute’s coaching, advocacy, and organizational cohorts focused on boundaries, communication, confidence, negotiation, and retention, and notes AI is a tool whose impact depends on intent and physician empowerment. She is also writing a book on perfectionism and emphasizes seasonality over “balance,” rest, non-negotiables, and rejecting narratives that people are broken.

00:00 Meet Dr. Amna Shabbir

00:46 Burnout After Residency

02:17 Geriatrics And Reframing

03:37 Coaching Roots And Support

05:41 Moral Injury Explained

07:09 Perfectionism And Failure

10:30 Early Career Institute Mission

13:43 Coaching Formats And Results

16:44 Identity Beyond The White Coat

20:44 AI And Physician Empowerment

22:41 Writing A Book On Perfectionism

23:58 Ditching Balance For Seasons

26:36 Legacy And How To Connect

27:55 Final Thanks And Resources