In this special REWIND episode, CJ revisits his conversation with poet J.K. Kennedy and reflects on the idea that we all carry a clumsy beauty within us if we are willing to listen, orient, and follow Spirit.

CJ explores what it means to simply be with someone—whether they are creating, transitioning, or moving through a difficult season of life. Often, our greatest challenges carry unexpected gifts. When we stop pushing against what’s happening and instead ask, Why is this here? What can I learn from this? something begins to shift. The challenge may not disappear, but its gift starts to reveal itself.

J.K. shares how her own struggles led her back to her core creative gifts, and how rough, unfinished moments—both in art and in life—often expose who we truly are. Clumsy, beautiful things emerge when we stop forcing outcomes and allow the process to unfold.

CJ reads J.K.’s poem “Clumsy Beauty,” a reflection on becoming a conscious, mindful creator—learning to trust the process, tease out the wrinkles, and let Spirit speak through every experience.

You’re never fully “there,” but you are always on your way.
Listen. Observe. Discover.
And allow your own clumsy beauty to bloom.

Want to learn more about CJ Miller? Check out his Spiritual Artist Retreats, 1:1 Personal Coaching, and Speaking Engagements at www.spiritualartisttoday.com. His retreats are designed to help you reconnect with your Creative Intelligence and express your true artistic voice. You can also find his upcoming schedule there, and his book, The Spiritual Artist, is available on Amazon.

What if relief doesn’t come from fixing your thoughts, but from moving your body and putting words on the page? In this episode of The Spiritual Artist Podcast, CJ Miller sits down with poet Jodie Kennedy, an observer, mumbler, overthinker, and accidental creative writer from Elkhorn, Wisconsin. Jodie is the author of Clumsy Beauty, a debut poetry collection rooted in anxiety, attention, and the quiet work of noticing what it feels like to be alive.

Jodie shares how writing poetry helps her listen to herself again when anxiety pulls her into mental loops. For her, writing is not about performance or polish. It is a way of coming back into alignment, hearing her own voice, and seeing herself with fresh eyes. Alongside writing, she turns to simple physical tasks like scooping chicken poop, washing dishes, brushing her teeth, or working in the barn. Not intense focus. Not productivity. Just mindful movement.

CJ reflects on how the body itself can become a source of healing, especially when paired with creative expression. Writing poetry and engaging in gentle physical labor both bring attention out of the head and back into the present moment. Together, they explore how many of us drift away from ourselves as we grow older, turning outward to fit into the world, and how art can become a way home.

CJ reads from Jodie’s work, including a passage that wrestles with the fear of an unintended existence and the longing to live passionately. Jodie also shares how life disruptions, toxic work, illness in her family, and walking with someone through the dying process pushed her to write daily on Instagram, what she calls “mental illness in small squares.”

This conversation explores why good art doesn’t sort life into good or bad, why presence matters more than answers, and why Jodie believes we are living in a time that calls for what she names exquisite love.

Her book is available on Amazon and wherever books are sold.
Visit her at www.jkkennedywrites.com

Sometimes the way out of anxiety is not thinking harder.
It is writing honestly.
And doing the next small, ordinary thing with care.

Want to learn more about CJ Miller? Check out his Spiritual Artist Retreats, 1:1 Personal Coaching, and Speaking Engagements at www.spiritualartisttoday.com. His retreats are designed to help you reconnect with your Creative Intelligence and express your true artistic voice. You can also find his upcoming schedule there, and his book, The Spiritual Artist, is available on Amazon.

REWIND: After a conversation with Rabbi Rami Shapiro, CJ reflects on why spiritual independence matters—especially for those burned by religion. Drawing from the Gospel of Thomas, mystic traditions, and insights echoed by Eckhart Tolle, CJ explores the difference between belief and realization, form and essence, doing and being. When presence becomes primary and effort softens, coherence emerges—and the Field of Creative Intelligence reveals itself.

Want to learn more about CJ Miller? Check out his Spiritual Artist Retreats, 1:1 Personal Coaching, and Speaking Engagements at www.spiritualartisttoday.com. His retreats are designed to help you reconnect with your Creative Intelligence and express your true artistic voice. You can also find his upcoming schedule there, and his book, The Spiritual Artist, is available on Amazon.