Simply put, today’s guests have been on a run for the ages. Ever since their debut album in 2013’s Race Music, Armand Hammer, NY-based duo of E L U C I D and billy woods, have been on an absolute tear.

With every passing release, their chemistry has gotten tighter, and their artistic scope has expanded. In 2021, the duo elevated to another level of critical and commercial success, teaming up with The legendary Alchemist for Haram - an album that has elevated the stock of woods and E L U C I D, with no sign of letting up.

Next, they delivered the amazing We Buy Diabetic Test Strips in 2023, and incredible solo records in '24 and '25 respectively.

Now in 2025, they joined forces with The Alchemist once again, with their latest album Mercy.

In this episode, we discuss the lean, scaled-back creative approach to Mercy, the key themes that emerged, Al’s superpowers as a producer, and much more.

The Plug (0:49).

The Interview (2:17).

The cover art for “Super Nintendo” (2:45).

The genesis of Mercy (4:35).

The recording process of Mercy (10:08).

The unspoken creative chemistry of Armand Hammer (17:00).

The thematic direction and symbolism of Mercy (23:17).

The emotional tension of Mercy (35:40).

Breaking down woods’ verse on “Laraaji” (37:47).

The sonic design of Mercy (44:30).

The Alchemist’s superpowers (49:45).

How Al tailors his sound for Armand Hammer (58:10).

The feature choices on Mercy (1:01:24).

Key future milestones for Armand Hammer - patron q from Robert Rau (1:04:52).

Upcoming projects / tour dates / merch (1:09:49).

Buy Mercy here: https://backwoodzstudioz.com/collections/armand-hammer-the-alchemist-mercy

Follow Armand Hammer on Twitter here: https://x.com/ArmandHammerNYC

Follow Armand Hammer on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/armandhammernyc/

Edited by: Alyssa Rodriguez

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I’ve been listening to the music of today’s guest for over a decade now. I have vivid memories of telling anyone that would listen, some variation of “Mick Jenkins is the TRUTH”.

Ever since I first heard The Water(s), I was sold. So it’s such a full circle moment to welcome him on the show.

Mick Jenkins is an artist who’s matured both on and off the mic. On the mic, he’s chiselled away at his craft with each passing album, with recent highwater marks in 2023’s The Patience, and his brand new album with EMIL, A MURDER OF CROWS. Off the mic, he’s worked hard to maintain his autonomy and independence as an artist.

In this episode, we discuss how he’s evolved as an artist, the ways he and other fellow artists can seize their power and circumvent the fruitless industry structure, and the creative process behind the brilliantly dark new collaborative album with EMIL, A MURDER OF CROWS.

The Plug (1:05).

The Interview (2:43).

Mick’s love for writing (4:36).

Mick’s artistic growth throughout his career (8:57).

Mick’s mature perspective (28:16).

How artists can take back the power (33:44).

The lyrical inspirations behind A MURDER OF CROWS (56:27).

The greatness of EMIL’s production on A MURDER OF CROWS (1:04:22).

Upcoming projects / tour dates / merch (1:11:43).

Buy/stream A MURDER OF CROWS here: https://www.even.biz/r/a-murder-of-crows

Follow Mick Jenkins on Twitter here: https://x.com/mickjenkins?lang=en

Follow Mick Jenkins on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/mickjenkins/?hl=en

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With most artists that I have on the show, I’m more concerned with the “why” and the “what”. Why did they take their music in this emotional direction? What inspired their style?

But with today’s guests, HUMAN ERROR CLUB, I found myself often asking “how”? HUMAN ERROR CLUB is a LA-based band comprised of drummer, Mekala Sessions, and two keyboardists in Diego Gaeta and Jesse Justice, who come together to create music that can be loosely described as free jazz, with elements of hip-hop infused inside of it too. They create music through improvisational methods that genuinely amaze me.

In this conversation, I sought to understand what this improvisational process looks like, some of their creative touchstones, and working with Kenny Segal on their new album on Backwoodz Studioz, HUMAN ERROR CLUB AT KENNY’S HOUSE.

The Plug (0:55).

The Interview (2:34).

HEC’s musical background (5:20).

How HEC was formed (9:18).

The HEC sound (13:58).

HEC’s improvisational creative process (16:40).

The fun of improvisational music (19:33).

HEC’s chemistry (25:22).

HEC’s songwriting process (27:30).

The creative process of their new album, HECAKH (30:40).

The making of “Dislocated” (35:59).

The impact of Kenny on HECAKH (41:40).

The emotional arc of HECAKH (47:45).

Upcoming projects / tour dates / merch (51:30).

Buy HUMAN ERROR CLUB AT KENNY'S HOUSE here: https://backwoodzstudioz.com/collections/human-error-club-at-kennys-house?srsltid=AfmBOorMXAyLZ8kO-TgpETF_3dUnnXrmz6P_NmmGm_oCZYuqWbX8Wj6U

Follow HUMAN ERROR CLUB on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/humanerrorclubla/

Edited by: Alyssa Rodriguez

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