Cameron, Jesse, Derek and Emily are all back together for a packed episode. In RELEVANT Recommends, we highlight Indie Tribe's new album, Who Do You Say I Am? and caught up with the guys at SXSW to talk about the making of the project and what it says about who they are as a group.

In RELEVANT Buzz: Alabama's basketball team has been quietly building a faith culture all season that's worth knowing about. Then, as Stephen Colbert is wrapping up the Late Show, his next move is pretty unexpected: writing a Lord of the Rings movie with Peter Jackson. And then we highlight an unexpected connection between SNL's newest cast member and Orlando-based Christian rapper Caleb Gordon. For real.

Plus we cover NCAA tournament drama, late night legends ranked, and the high school celebrity alumni rabbit hole (yes, DJ Khaled, Joey Fatone and Wayne Brady went to school together). In Slices: googly eyes are scientifically proven to deter seagulls (and lions), and the world record Big Mac guy has opinions on the Big Arch. And at the end of the show it's One Has to Go: pop icons, board games, classic Comedy Central, sneaker culture and more. We said it was packed.

0:00 — Intro / Derek's back, everybody's been sick

4:00 — The podcast economy is in trouble

11:30 — Mike Lindell gets served mid-interview

19:58 — RELEVANT Buzz

20:30 — NCAA Tournament buzzer beater & Dan Hurley headbutts a ref

23:30 — Alabama basketball's faith culture and Bible study movement

25:45 — Stephen Colbert leaving Late Show; late night legends ranked

27:25 — Colbert is co-writing a Lord of the Rings movie (Shadows of the Past)

33:00 — Unexpected celebrity connections: Snoop & Cameron Diaz, Dr. Phillips HS alumni

34:50 — SNL's Cam Patterson and Christian rapper Caleb Gordon went to school together

39:05 — Slices: Googly eyes deter seagulls (and lions in Botswana)

41:35 — Slices: The Big Mac world record holder reviews the Big Arch

44:42 — RELEVANT Recommends: Indie Tribe's Who Do You Say I Am?

47:37 — Derek on writing albums in lockdown camps

53:00 — One Has to Go: pop icons, comedians, board games, sneakers, Nickelodeon, MTV

Worship leader Pat Barrett — known for "Good Good Father" and "Build My Life" — joins Cameron, Jesse and Emily to talk about his new live album 'Break Open,' why he sat on the title track for nearly a decade, and his late-in-life obsession with surfing (including an upcoming trip to Kelly Slater's Surf Ranch). He also gets honest about how his thinking on songwriting vs. worship leading has shifted, because of course we ask awkward questions.

Also, Emily brings RELEVANT Buzz fresh from South by Southwest, where she sat in on a panel with Vince Gilligan — creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul — who said he thinks he owes the world something better than anti-heroes. Plus: High Point University's Cinderella March Madness run, and the faith story behind Chase Johnston's #99 jersey that everyone's been talking about.

And to close it out — Pat helps the crew run the Sweet 16 mascots through a no-stats, vibes-only bracket challenge to crown the real national champion. Based solely on mascots, not teams. One with a mustache may or may not have won.

Highlights:

• 0:00 – Why last week's episode was late
• 2:30 – Starlink satellites
• 9:30 – Driving gloves
• 17:50 – RELEVANT Buzz: High Point University's Chase Johnston's #99 story
• 27:00 – Emily's South by Southwest panel with Vince Gilligan
• 31:45 – The Lost arc, the Sawyer problem, and what Vince Gilligan owes culture
• 36:00 – Pat Barrett joins the show
• 38:30 – Recording 'Break Open' live in a sweaty tent
• 40:40 – Why the title song sat unreleased for nearly 10 years
• 42:50 – Songwriting vs. worship leading — what's actually better?
• 45:20 – Pat's surfing obsession
• 48:15 – The March Madness Mascot Bracket Challenge

Ryan Gosling joins the RELEVANT Podcast to talk about his new sci-fi film Project Hail Mary — what made him fall in love with this story and why this one might be a "core memory" film for a generation.

Before that, Emily reports from SXSW to break down the week's biggest faith-and-culture stories: a Christian animated short film made by two Pixar animators and 200 volunteers (including musician Josh Garrels) got nominated for an Oscar. Also Christian apologist Wesley Huff went on the popular podcast 'Diary of a CEO' and told Stephen Bartlett to his face he's going to hell. Plus, NFL quarterback Justin Fields reveals he wants to become a missionary after football.

Then in Slices: the Tooth Fairy economy is growing (Jesse has a lot of thoughts), a huge scandal in a camel beauty pageant, and you'll never be able to predict this week's 'What's Jesse Thinking?' segment. It's a wild ride this week.

Highlights:

00:25 — SxSW breakdown: The decline from tech-and-music powerhouse

07:38 — RELEVANT BUZZ

07:43 — The Office canon errors: a deep dive nobody asked for (Michael Scott's anniversary math)

10:11 — Forevergreen: Oscar-nominated Christian animated short by two Pixar animators + 200 volunteers, featuring Josh Garrels

19:22 — Wesley Huff talks Christianity on 'Diary of a CEO'

26:07 — NFL QB Justin Fields says he wants to be a missionary after football

30:07 — SLICES

30:14 — The Tooth Fairy economy

35:34 — Camel beauty pageant scandal

37:53 — RELEVANT RECOMMENDS: Project Hail Mary

43:25 — Ryan Gosling on why he keeps making space movies and why he won't actually go to space

46:42 — Ryan Gosling on why he picked Project Hail Mary — "you would die for this rock alien"

48:54 — Ryan Gosling on Project Hail Mary as a "core memory movie" like E.T. and Back to the Future

50:01 — WHAT'S JESSE THINKING?: Should Golden Corral run the US government?

56:23 — Post-credits: Apology to the estate of Shel Silverstein