After almost 5 years and nearly 250 episodes, The Next Man Up podcast is drawing to a close. In this final episode, Mark is joined by current co-host, John Gregory, and previous co-hosts Josh Wilson and Alen Auguste, as the 4 discuss their "why" for doing the podcast, favorite memories, and the impact they hope to leave on the men and fathers listening in.

Mastering the craft of fatherhood requires a number of things. For today's guest, two of those things are to rebel and create. Ned Schaut — husband, father of 5, author of two books and host of the Rebel and Create Podcast — joins the show today to talk about why those two words are so influential for him. We cover a number of other topics familiar to this show, including the much anticipated release of his new book and the impact he hopes it will have on young fathers.

Connect with Ned:

• Websites:
• • rebelandcreate.com
  • adventureoffatherhood.com
• Ned's TedX Talk
• Rebel and Create Podcast

Manhood and journey, two words used often on this show, come together to form an inspiration and movement for today's guest. Kent Evans is the father of 5 boys, the author of 3 books, and founder of Manhood Journey. He joins us today to talk about the work he's doing to encourage and equip fathers to pursue biblical fatherhood and why it's so important that men embrace the manhood journey.

Connect with Kent:

• Website: manhoodjourney.org
• Kent's books on Amazon