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The Making Schools Work Podcast

The Making Schools Work Podcast

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Join us each week as we talk to different SREB team members and educators across the country to find out the latest in school innovations. From classroom instruction to school leadership, we are going to examine what it is that makes schools work!

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  • The Human Side of Career Readiness With Nicole Cobb
    Mar 31 2026

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    How do we ensure the skills students build in the classroom translate to the world of work? In this episode, Dr. Nicole Cobb, Professor of the Practice at Vanderbilt University and member of the Governor’s Council for CTE, joins Daniel Rock and Ashley Shaw to discuss the intersection of school climate and career readiness.

    We move beyond "checking boxes" to explore how teachers can model the human skills—communication, initiative and problem-solving—that employers actually want.

    Key Takeaways

    • Modeling Professionalism: Why it is essential for teachers to explicitly model body language, eye contact and tone of voice during lessons.
    • The Power of the "So What?": Bridging the developmental gap by being transparent with students about why they are practicing teamwork or meeting deadlines.
    • Practical Lesson Tweaks: How to shift from traditional five-paragraph essays to career-aligned formats like police reports or project summaries.
    • Ethical AI Integration: Using AI for brainstorming and feedback without sacrificing critical thinking or falling for "fake" citations.

    Resource Mentioned

    • World Economic Forum Future of Jobs Report: Highlighting that 39% of core worker skills are expected to change by 2030.

    The Southern Regional Education Board is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that works with states and schools to improve education at every level, from early childhood through doctoral education and the workforce.


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    42 m
  • Integrating Academics and CTE
    Mar 17 2026

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    In a rapidly changing workforce, students need more than just technical skills—they need the analytical thinking and adaptive problem-solving abilities to apply those skills in real-world contexts. In this episode, SREB Instructional Coach Deb Cullen joins us to discuss how educators can blur the lines between "shop" and "theory" to create a more powerful, integrated learning experience.

    ​Deb shares practical strategies for embedding literacy and math into Career and Technical Education and explains why this integration isn't "one more thing" for teachers, but a vital part of preparing students for a high-wage, high-skill future.

    Key Discussion Points

    • The Changing Purpose of Education: Moving from simple knowledge retrieval to helping students navigate and apply the information at their fingertips.
    • Decoding Embedded Academics: Understanding that high-level literacy and math are already present in CTE—from 14th-grade level technical manuals to the complex chemistry of cosmetology.
    • Teaching for Transfer: How to use real-world scenarios and AI as a "thought partner" to see student thinking before they ever touch expensive equipment or work with a live client.
    • The Power of Questioning: Utilizing superpower tools like Q-Charts to move students from basic knowledge to predictive and creative analytical thinking.
    • Collaborative Strategies: Practical tips for administrators and teachers to "erase the lines" through shared planning periods and cross-curricular projects.

    Featured Guest

    ​Debra Cullen is an instructional coach at SREB with a deep background in both the humanities and CTE. She works extensively through SREB’s Teach2Lead initiative, coaching new teachers coming from industry to master pedagogy and classroom management.

    The Southern Regional Education Board is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that works with states and schools to improve education at every level, from early childhood through doctoral education and the workforce.


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  • The Art of the Feedback Conversation: Part 2 with Principal Baruti Kafele
    Mar 10 2026

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    In the conclusion of our two-part series with Principal Baruti Kafele, we move from the leadership mindset to the tactical execution of instructional coaching. This episode is a deep dive into the "Grow You" model, focusing on the sophisticated people skills and communication nuances required to turn high-stakes observations into transformative growth.

    We explore the psychology of the feedback loop, the importance of "reading the room," and how to build a culture where instructional leadership is the daily norm, not a seasonal event.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Building a "Grow You" Culture: Shifting the perception of classroom visits from a punitive "gotcha" to an inherent, supportive part of a teacher’s professional identity.
    • The Psychology of the Conversation: Practical "tricks" for leveling the playing field, including moving meetings out of the office and the intentional use of student seating to reduce power dynamics.
    • Mastering Communication Nuances: How a leader’s voice, facial expressions and even the intensity of their eye contact can either build a bridge or create a barrier to growth.
    • Audience Analysis for Educators: The importance of "reading the room" and adapting your leadership style to meet the unique personality and experience level of every teacher.
    • Feedback That Allays Anxiety: Strategies for finding immediate common ground and using early reinforcement to ensure teachers remain open to constructive growth.

    Featured Guest

    Baruti Kafele is a former award-winning high school principal and a leading authority on school leadership and culture. He is the author of several books, including What Is My Value to the Teachers I Supervise? and is a highly sought-after featured presenter at the SREB Making Schools Work Conference.

    Resources Mentioned

    • PrincipalKafele.com: Baruti Kafele’s official website for books, resources, and speaking information.
    • The Assistant Principal & New Principals Academy: Principal Kafele's weekly YouTube live stream (300+ consecutive weeks) for school leaders.
    • What Is My Value to the Teachers I Supervise?: Principal Kafele's latest book focused on instructional leadership.

    The Southern Regional Education Board is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that works with states and schools to improve education at every level, from early childhood through doctoral education and the workforce.


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