This week, we return to our Living Clean: The Journey Continues book study and dive into Chapter 4, Our Physical Selves, focusing on the section titled “It’s a Relationship.”

We’re joined by five thoughtful guests—Stephan, Butch, Connie, Barb, and Peter—who each read a paragraph from the text and offer their personal reflections on what it means to have a relationship with our bodies in recovery. From learning how to care for ourselves physically to exploring how years of addiction distorted our connection to our own flesh and bone, this episode is full of honest insight and spiritual growth.

Each guest shares from the heart, and the group responds with experience, strength, and hope—making for a rich, layered conversation about healing, balance, and acceptance.

Whether you’re on this step in your own journey or just exploring what it means to be fully present in your body, this is one you won’t want to miss.

In this powerful episode, we sit down with members of the Hole in the Wall Group of Narcotics Anonymous—some of whom found recovery while incarcerated at Oregon State Penitentiary and now carry the message back inside from the outside. Also joining us are the group’s former club president, their current outside GSR, and Chris B., a contributor to the blog “NA-supported Recovery Behind the Walls.”

Together, we explore the legacy of a group that has been transforming lives since 1988. From its roots as an inmate-led NA meeting to becoming a cornerstone of recovery behind the walls, the Hole in the Wall Group has been a beacon of hope for decades. These members share their stories of freedom, service, and continued commitment to carrying the message where it’s needed most.

This episode is a tribute to the power of recovery, the impact of service, and the spiritual awakening that can happen—even in the darkest places.

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Want to support or stay connected with the Hole in the Wall Group? Here’s how:

How to sign up for the Hole in the Wall Group Newsletter (free to all NA members inside and outside the walls):

Send your request to:

NA Newsletter C/O Activities

2605 State Street

Salem, OR 97310

How to purchase medallions, commemorative coins, or support the group:

Make checks or CD-28s payable to:

HOLE IN THE WALL GROUP OF NA

Acct. No. 002432

Mail to:

DOC Central Trust

PO Box 14400

Salem, OR 97310

T-shirt, hoodie, and long-sleeve orders (U.S. shipping available):

T-shirts & Long Sleeves: $20

Sweaters & Hoodies: $40

All proceeds benefit Recovery Services at OSP.

If you’re not an inmate and wish to purchase a shirt or have questions:

Contact: Keddy H. at 503-983-0517 or kedwardhaines@yahoo.com

Make sure to indicate which image and size you wish to purchase. Allow 4–6 weeks after payment clears.

This week on The Living Clean Podcast, we’re honored to welcome back a familiar voice and a true force in recovery: Jimmy S. from Las Vegas, Nevada. Clean since November 2, 1984, Jimmy is no stranger to our listeners—he first joined us during the “Conscious Contact” episode, where he was the ninth person to share.

Recently, we had the privilege of hearing Jimmy speak as a main speaker at NCCNA in Sacramento, and he lit the room up with his presence and message. Jimmy isn’t just an incredible storyteller—he’s one of those rare people who makes you feel like you’re the only person in the world when you’re talking to him. Genuine, grounded, and full of heart.

We’re beyond grateful to have him on the podcast again. He’s the kind of dude you don’t forget. Hope y’all enjoy this one.