“When people dream of being a Cast Member or a Park Ranger it’s less about the pay and more about being part of something special.”

Notable Moments

2:13 – Going from urban planning to Disney to traveling the backroads of America.

4:30 – Similarities between theme parks and natural parks

7:37 – Why uniforms tell stories too

13:35 – The “dream job” appeal of park rangers and Disney cast members

17:16 – Three threads Sam sees across Disney, Universal, and parks

19:25 – How parks decide what story to tell

25:08 – The “layer cake” of storytelling

27:40 – Freeman Tilden’s principle of provocation

29:36 – Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride as a parable

This conversation with author and urban planner Sam Gennawey explores the surprising similarities between theme parks and national parks. Jody Maberry and Sam discuss how stories are layered, why interpretation matters, and what makes an experience stay with us long after it’s over.

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"Disney leaders have an unmatched ability to balance big-picture vision with meticulous attention to the smallest details."

Notable Moments

00:54 – What makes Disney leaders different
02:18 – The value of high standards and detail
04:28 – Common mistakes in transitioning from corporate to personal ventures
05:19 – The need for clarity in defining your value
06:50 – Travel habits: judging communities by their pizza
08:17 – Glacier National Park and finding “your park”
09:36 – Lessons from international travel
10:52 – Donut shop recommendations
12:08 – Why locals know the best spots
13:23 – A memorable stop in Pine Mountain, Georgia

In this episode, Wes Gay returns to ask me three unscripted questions. Our conversation leads to insights on what sets Disney leaders apart, why clarity is crucial for executives transitioning into their own ventures, and the hidden gems you find when you travel like a local. I share stories from workshops, travel adventures, and the importance of blending big-picture vision with detail-focused execution.

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"Confusion is the number one enemy of every business."

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Notable Moments:

00:01:24 – Why confusion is the #1 enemy of business

00:04:36 – Example of how to introduce yourself with a problem-first approach

00:06:02 – Why Wes keeps his website extremely simple and intentional

00:10:09 – What a framework actually is and why it matters

00:12:21 – Using identity-based compliments to uncover your strengths

00:14:52 – How to use AI and testing to build your first framework

00:18:52 – Your framework is just a vehicle to deliver results

00:22:08 – Real examples of effective frameworks Wes uses

00:25:07 – “Thin to win”: Why less is more in your framework

00:27:14 – The Tim Ferriss example of hyper-specific focus

00:30:24 – Creating a framework that becomes what you’re known for

Wes Gay helps brands find the right words to grow their business, and in this episode, he explains how to transform your expertise into a powerful framework. From identifying your strengths to testing your ideas, Wes shares how clarity can become your most valuable asset. If you're a solopreneur, a retiring executive, or someone seeking to clarify your message, this conversation will show you how to turn what you know into a business that works.

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