Episodios

  • 218: Mike Goodrum: From Cutthroat to Culture-Builder: What Ambition Won’t Teach You About Leading People
    Aug 21 2025
    Show Notes: Mike Goodrum: From Cutthroat to Culture-Builder: What Ambition Won’t Teach You About Leading People Episode 218 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Brought to you by Zencity Overview Michael Goodrum’s rise through local government was fast, relentless, and at times, ruthless. From living in his car outside a community college to becoming City Manager of Sugar Land, Texas, Michael built a reputation as the guy who could fix anything. But it came at a cost: people, trust, and even his own family. In this episode, Michael opens up about the early years of ambition-fueled leadership, what broke him (and woke him up), and the radical transformation that followed. From chasing performance to building culture, his story is both a cautionary tale and a blueprint for what’s possible when you decide to lead differently. If you’ve ever felt torn between doing what’s urgent and doing what’s right—or if you’ve questioned whether you can truly lead without losing yourself—this conversation will hit home. Episode Highlights: The Car. The Coach. The Break. How a volleyball coach noticed a homeless student sleeping in a Nissan Sentra and changed everything. Ambition Without Alignment Why Michael's early success in local government came at the expense of culture, collaboration, and trust. The Missed Kindergarten Event The moment that forced him to confront the father—and leader—he didn’t want to be. A Keynote That Broke Him Open How a talk by Bob Chapman (Everybody Matters) led to cold calls, tears, and a new chapter of leadership. What Culture Change Actually Takes From internal sabotage to shared vision: the 7-year plan to transform Sugar Land from the inside out. Coral Springs & The Throwaway Interview The city he tried not to get and how a brutal dose of honesty turned into a career-defining opportunity. Connect with Mike Goodrum LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/michael-goodrum About Our Sponsor: Zencity This episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast is made possible by Zencity—a trusted partner to hundreds of local governments around the world. Zencity is a software that enables local government leaders to gather, understand, and act on resident feedback, going beyond the "same ten people" to actually reach residents where they're at, and incorporate that feedback into decisions large and small. To learn more about how Zencity is helping turn data into action and insight into impact: Learn more at Zencity.io Connect with Seth Winterhalter: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com About HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions At HaltingWinter, we help local government leaders build thriving teams and resilient workplace cultures through keynotes, workshops, and leadership development programs rooted in the ABCs of Impactful Municipal Leadership. Learn more at HaltingWinter.com Seth's Upcoming Keynotes: 2025 Kentucky League of Cities Annual Conference & Expo September 23-26 | Owensboro, KY Details at KLC ELGL 2025 Conference | Camp Govlife October 1-3 | Santa Rose, CA Details at ELGL 2025 City Clerks New Law and Elections Seminar November 12-14 | Los Angeles, CA Details at CalCities 2025 Kansas City/County Management Association Annual Conference December 3-5 | Manhattan, KS Details at KCMA
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    1 h y 40 m
  • 217: Jeff Meisel: From Embezzlement to Empowerment: Building a City That Trusts Again
    Aug 19 2025
    Show Notes: Jeff Meisel-From Embezzlement to Empowerment: Building a City That Trusts Again Episode 217 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Brought to you by Zencity Overview In this episode, Seth Winterhalter sits down with Jeff Meisel, City Manager of Bowling Green, Kentucky, for one of the most powerful and transparent leadership conversations to date. Jeff’s story isn’t polished—it’s lived. Born and raised in Bowling Green, Jeff never planned to lead the city he grew up in. But after uncovering a major embezzlement scandal inside city hall, he chose to stay. He chose to lead. And he’s been rebuilding trust and momentum ever since. From his beginnings as a CPA to his decade-long tenure as CFO, and now as City Manager of Kentucky’s third-largest city, Jeff reflects on leadership through crisis, building a dream team, the emotional cost of public service, and how to lead with calm, clarity, and character—even in the public eye. This is a masterclass in resilience, community-rooted leadership, and what it takes to serve a city that raised you. Episode Highlights: “The FBI Was Called—And I Had to Stay” Jeff shares how he uncovered fraud at the highest levels, reported it, and chose to remain and lead the cleanup. Built by Bowling Green, Leading for Bowling Green A rare look at what it means to serve the city that shaped you and the weight of leading your friends and neighbors. Crisis Leadership, Up Close What it was like to manage a team through public scandal, staff distrust, and personal exhaustion, all while raising five-month-old twins. From Finance to the Frontlines How a CPA learned to lead people, manage politics, and build citywide strategy without losing himself. How to Build a Dream Team When 7 of 9 department heads retired early in his tenure, Jeff saw opportunity and rebuilt a leadership team from the ground up. The Power of Quiet Rhythms Jeff shares how mowing his own lawn, playing lunch-hour basketball, and walking with his wife have kept him grounded and healthy, despite a chronic illness diagnosis. Connect with Jeff Meisel LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-meisel About Our Sponsor: Zencity This episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast is made possible by Zencity—a trusted partner to hundreds of local governments around the world. Zencity is a software that enables local government leaders to gather, understand, and act on resident feedback, going beyond the "same ten people" to actually reach residents where they're at, and incorporate that feedback into decisions large and small. To learn more about how Zencity is helping turn data into action and insight into impact: Learn more at Zencity.io Connect with Seth Winterhalter: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com About HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions At HaltingWinter, we help local government leaders build thriving teams and resilient workplace cultures through keynotes, workshops, and leadership development programs rooted in the ABCs of Impactful Municipal Leadership. Learn more at HaltingWinter.com Seth's Upcoming Keynotes: 2025 Kentucky League of Cities Annual Conference & Expo September 23-26 | Owensboro, KY Details at KLC ELGL 2025 Conference | Camp Govlife October 1-3 | Santa Rose, CA Details at ELGL 2025 City Clerks New Law and Elections Seminar November 12-14 | Los Angeles, CA Details at CalCities 2025 Kansas City/County Management Association Annual Conference December 3-5 | Manhattan, KS Details at KCMA
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    1 h y 27 m
  • 216: Book of the Week: The Advantage
    Aug 18 2025
    Show Notes: Book of the Week – The AdvantageEpisode 216 of The HaltingWinter Podcast (Part 1 of 5: The Advantage Series) Episode Title: Why Smart Cities Still Fail Episode Overview Your organization has hired the best department heads, balanced the budget, implemented cutting-edge technology, and created a strategic plan that reads like a masterpiece. Yet somehow, your city still feels stuck in quicksand—progress is slow, politics drain energy from prioritized work, and even your most talented people struggle to create meaningful impact. In this kickoff episode of The Advantage series, Seth Winterhalter explores why technical excellence alone fails to create thriving municipal organizations. Drawing from Patrick Lencioni's insights in "The Advantage," we discover how organizational health—not just organizational intelligence—determines whether cities truly serve their communities effectively. Whether you're dealing with leadership team dysfunction, staff confusion about priorities, or the exhausting cycle of crisis management, Lencioni's framework offers a comprehensive solution. In this episode, we examine why the most effective municipal leaders focus equally on building trust, creating clarity, and eliminating organizational friction alongside their technical expertise and strategic planning. Key Takeaways How the pursuit of "smart" solutions can mask underlying organizational health problems that kill momentumWhy even the most qualified leadership teams struggle without vulnerability-based trust and clear communicationThe difference between functional cooperation and genuine collaboration in high-pressure municipal environmentsLencioni's four disciplines framework and what it means for sustainable municipal transformationHow to identify whether your organization needs smarter strategies or healthier relationships This Week's Journey in the MLDC Monday: Understanding the health vs. smart paradox and why organizational dysfunction persists despite technical competence Tuesday–Thursday: Deep dives into building vulnerability-based trust, creating crystal-clear organizational purpose, and communicating priorities until they become embedded in cultureFriday: Virtual Book Club for live conversation and practical organizational health implementation strategies Join the MLDC: Summer Special Now is the best time to join the MLDC, giving you access to: ✔ All five episodes breaking down one book per week for municipal applications ✔ Daily blog reflections and implementation tools ✔ A community of local government leaders from across North America ✔ Our live, weekly Virtual Book Club session ➡ Join now at www.HaltingWinter.com Resources Mentioned Book: The Advantage by Patrick LencioniMLDC Info: www.haltingwinter.com/mldc Connect with Seth LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com
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  • 215: Ed Barrett: No Magic Wand: What It Really Takes to Revive a City
    Aug 14 2025
    Show Notes: Ed Barrett - No Magic Wand: What It Really Takes to Revive a City Episode 215 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Brought to you by Zencity Overview In this episode, Seth Winterhalter sits down with Ed Barrett—retired City Manager of Bangor and Lewiston, Maine—for a masterclass in what long-term, community-centered leadership really looks like. From his early days auditing performance metrics in Tucson to a 22-year tenure leading a full-scale downtown and riverfront revitalization in Bangor, Ed shares hard-won insights that challenge the myth of quick fixes and flashy solutions. There’s no magic wand in municipal leadership, but there is a path—if you're willing to commit to vision, process, and the slow, steady work of building something that lasts. Whether you're a city manager, public works director, or rising department leader, this conversation will re-anchor you in the purpose of the profession and the practical courage it requires. Episode Highlights: "Your job isn’t to tell people what to do—it’s to help them get it done." Ed reflects on his early leadership philosophy, shaped by firsthand observations of poor management and morale in Tucson's public works departments. Leadership Isn’t a Promotion—It’s a Profession Why the jump from “skilled doer” to “effective leader” is a bigger leap than most cities realize and how mentorship can bridge the gap. Strategic Patience and Political Courage How Bangor turned down short-term development wins—including a supermarket on prime waterfront land—in favor of long-term community transformation. The Power of Tenure Ed shares why staying 20+ years in one city allowed him to see the fruit of projects that would have died with a 3-year turnover. Build the Place, Not Just the Economy From trails and parks to libraries and housing, Ed explains why community development is economic development. Revitalization Without Bulldozers How Bangor repurposed its vacant department stores into a children’s museum, assisted living center, and University art museum—sparking a full downtown revival. Why Strategic Plans Fail—And How to Make Them Work Ed unpacks why most strategic plans sit on a shelf and how to actually turn them into the spine of decision-making and development. Connect with Ed Barrett LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ed-barrett About Our Sponsor: Zencity This episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast is made possible by Zencity—a trusted partner to hundreds of local governments around the world. Zencity is a software that enables local government leaders to gather, understand, and act on resident feedback, going beyond the "same ten people" to actually reach residents where they're at, and incorporate that feedback into decisions large and small. To learn more about how Zencity is helping turn data into action and insight into impact: Learn more at Zencity.io Connect with Seth Winterhalter: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com About HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions At HaltingWinter, we help local government leaders build thriving teams and resilient workplace cultures through keynotes, workshops, and leadership development programs rooted in the ABCs of Impactful Municipal Leadership. Learn more at HaltingWinter.com Seth's Upcoming Keynotes: 2025 Kentucky League of Cities Annual Conference & Expo September 23-26 | Owensboro, KY Details at KLC ELGL 2025 Conference | Camp Govlife October 1-3 | Santa Rose, CA Details at ELGL 2025 City Clerks New Law and Elections Seminar November 12-14 | Los Angeles, CA Details at CalCities 2025 Kansas City/County Management Association Annual Conference December 3-5 | Manhattan, KS Details at KCMA
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    1 h y 43 m
  • 214: Boone Bowling: Show Up, Listen, Lead: How to Build Trust from Scratch
    Aug 12 2025
    Show Notes: Boone Bowling-Show Up, Listen, Lead: How to Build Trust from Scratch Episode 214 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Brought to you by Zencity Overview What happens when a 22-year-old with no political background or formal training decides to run for city council? In Middlesboro, Kentucky, it leads to transformation. In this episode, Seth Winterhalter sits down with Mayor Boone Bowling to explore his unexpected rise from small-town kid to small-town CEO and the messy, meaningful leadership journey in between. From growing up in the office of his father’s tarp company to walking into community meetings uninvited “just to listen,” Boone’s story is a masterclass in how trust is built one room, one relationship, and one risk at a time. With a construction management degree and a strong belief that “no one really knows what they’re doing at first,” Boone now leads a city of 10,000 that regularly serves over 37,000 people a day. His insights are practical, disarming, and full of heart and he reminds us that real leadership isn’t about polish or pedigree. It’s about showing up. Episode Highlights: A Mousetrap and a Tarp: How Boone’s father turned an idea into a global tarp company and how that work ethic shaped Boone’s leadership style. “One Day I Might Run for Mayor”: How a frustrating moment in high school became a future calling. No Plan, Just Passion: What it’s really like to file for city council without knowing how a meeting works and why that kind of courage matters. Leadership as Listening: Why Boone walked into every community meeting he could find and what it taught him about serving people first. Youth Isn’t a Liability—Arrogance Is: How Boone navigated criticism about his age and chose to lead with humility and consistency. From Local to Regional Impact: Why a town of 10,000 can drive $452 million in commerce and how Boone is leveraging that momentum for economic growth and revitalization. Uncomfortable on Purpose: Why Boone believes the best leaders stay uncomfortable and why that’s a sign of progress, not weakness. Connect with Boone Bowling City of Middlesboro: www.cityofmiddlesboro.com About Our Sponsor: Zencity This episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast is made possible by Zencity—a trusted partner to hundreds of local governments around the world. Zencity is a software that enables local government leaders to gather, understand, and act on resident feedback, going beyond the "same ten people" to actually reach residents where they're at, and incorporate that feedback into decisions large and small. To learn more about how Zencity is helping turn data into action and insight into impact: Learn more at Zencity.io Connect with Seth Winterhalter: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com About HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions At HaltingWinter, we help local government leaders build thriving teams and resilient workplace cultures through keynotes, workshops, and leadership development programs rooted in the ABCs of Impactful Municipal Leadership. Learn more at HaltingWinter.com Seth's Upcoming Keynotes: 2025 Kentucky League of Cities Annual Conference & Expo September 23-26 | Owensboro, KY Details at KLC ELGL 2025 Conference | Camp Govlife October 1-3 | Santa Rose, CA Details at ELGL 2025 City Clerks New Law and Elections Seminar November 12-14 | Los Angeles, CA Details at CalCities 2025 Kansas City/County Management Association Annual Conference December 3-5 | Manhattan, KS Details at KCMA
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    1 h y 31 m
  • 213: Book of the Week: Unleash the Power of Storytelling
    Aug 11 2025
    Show Notes: Book of the Week – Unleash the Power of StorytellingEpisode 213 of The HaltingWinter Podcast (Part 1 of 5: The Power of Storytelling Series) Episode Title: Why Your Best Data Falls on Deaf Ears Episode Overview Your presentations are packed with compelling statistics, your proposals are backed by bulletproof research, yet council members remain unconvinced and citizens continue to disengage from municipal priorities. In this kickoff episode of our Unleash the Power of Storytelling series, Seth Winterhalter explores why even the most logical municipal arguments fail to generate support and action. Drawing from Rob Biesenbach's insights on strategic narrative communication, we discover how stories bridge the gap between technical expertise and public understanding, creating the emotional connection necessary for sustained community engagement. Whether you're struggling with budget presentation engagement, policy explanation clarity, or maintaining momentum for long-term initiatives, Biesenbach's approach offers a sophisticated solution. In this episode, we examine why the most effective municipal leaders learn to weave narrative with data, making abstract policies personally relevant while maintaining professional credibility and factual accuracy. Key Takeaways How information overload creates citizen disengagement despite municipal leaders' best intentionsWhy logical arguments alone fail to motivate action in high-stakes municipal decision-makingThe difference between data that informs and stories that inspire sustainable community supportBiesenbach's framework for strategic storytelling and what it means for municipal accountabilityHow to bridge the expertise gap between technical knowledge and public comprehension without oversimplifying This Week's Journey in the MLDC Monday: Understanding why data-driven communication fails and how stories create engagement Tuesday–Thursday: Deep dives into trust-building through narrative, making complex policies accessible, and sustaining momentum through strategic storytellingFriday: Virtual Book Club for live conversation and practical storytelling implementation strategies Join the MLDC: Summer Special Now is the best time to join the MLDC, giving you access to: ✔ All five episodes breaking down Unleash the Power of Storytelling for municipal applications ✔ Daily blog reflections and emotional intelligence implementation tools ✔ A community of city managers and municipal leaders developing leadership effectiveness ✔ Our live, weekly Virtual Book Club session ➡ Join now at www.HaltingWinter.com Resources Mentioned Book: Unleash the Power of Storytelling by Rob BiesenbachMLDC Info: www.haltingwinter.com/mldc Connect with Seth LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com
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  • 212: Steve Dalton: Debt-Free Isn’t Growth: Infrastructure, Integrity, and the Impossible Annexation
    Aug 7 2025
    Show Notes: Steve Dalton: Debt-Free Isn’t Growth: Infrastructure, Integrity, and the Impossible Annexation Episode 212 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Brought to you by Zencity Overview In this episode, Seth Winterhalter sits down with Steve Dalton, City Administrator of Branson West, Missouri—a small town with 500 residents, million-dollar infrastructure, and a story that defies every assumption about rural government leadership. From a childhood on a farm with no running water to a reluctant entry into law enforcement, Steve’s journey is anything but traditional. After years in narcotics and investigations, he stepped into the role of police chief and eventually, city administrator, where he now oversees explosive regional growth and one of the boldest annexations in Missouri history: bringing Silver Dollar City into the city limits. Steve shares how he’s helping Branson West double in size, lead with integrity, and reject the notion that being debt-free equals progress. His philosophy? "Build it before they come and build it right." Episode Highlights: “You're hired.” How a skeptical civilian walked into a police interview, said he wanted the chief’s job, and walked out with a badge and a gun. From Narcotics to City Hall Why Steve believes the best city administrators are often former officers who know how to make decisions with limited time and imperfect information. You Build It Before They Come The untold story of how a backchannel friendship and a bold sewer bond led to the successful annexation of Silver Dollar City. Infrastructure as a Vision Tool Why Branson West, with just 505 residents, has 1.1 million gallons of water in the air and a wastewater plant built for a city 7x its size. The Cost of Playing It Safe What Steve told his board when they celebrated being debt-free and why standing still would’ve meant falling behind. Leadership Without a Degree How grit, integrity, and action—not credentials—turned a small-town police chief into a regional visionary for growth. Connect with Steve Dalton LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/steve-dalton About Our Sponsor: Zencity This episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast is made possible by Zencity, a trusted partner to hundreds of local governments around the world. Zencity is a software that enables local government leaders to gather, understand, and act on resident feedback, going beyond the "same ten people" to actually reach residents where they're at, and incorporate that feedback into decisions large and small. To learn more about how Zencity is helping turn data into action and insight into impact: Learn more at Zencity.io Connect with Seth Winterhalter: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com About HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions At HaltingWinter, we help local government leaders build thriving teams and resilient workplace cultures through keynotes, workshops, and leadership development programs rooted in the ABCs of Impactful Municipal Leadership. Learn more at HaltingWinter.com Seth's Upcoming Keynotes: 2025 Kentucky League of Cities Annual Conference & Expo September 23-26 | Owensboro, KY Details at KLC ELGL 2025 Conference | Camp Govlife October 1-3 | Santa Rose, CA Details at ELGL 2025 City Clerks New Law and Elections Seminar November 12-14 | Los Angeles, CA Details at CalCities 2025 Kansas City/County Management Association Annual Conference December 3-5 | Manhattan, KS Details at KCMA
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  • 211: Kathy O'Nan: Beyond the Tornado: Presence, Pressure, and the Power of Local Leadership
    Aug 5 2025
    Show Notes: Kathy O'Nan: Beyond the Tornado: Presence, Pressure, and the Power of Local Leadership Episode 211 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Brought to you by Zencity Overview In this powerful episode, Seth Winterhalter sits down with Kathy O’Nan, Mayor of Mayfield, Kentucky, a retired teacher turned public servant whose life was forever changed on December 10, 2021, when a catastrophic EF-4 tornado ripped through the heart of her city. What followed was a story of leadership under fire, community resilience, and a fierce refusal to give up. Kathy shares the emotional and practical realities of leading in the wake of unimaginable loss from navigating FEMA and state recovery funds to helping her community rebuild trust, homes, and hope. With raw honesty and quiet strength, she reflects on the importance of presence in a crisis, the unseen emotional toll of leadership, and how her background as an educator became an unexpected asset in the highest-stakes moment of her life. This isn’t just a story of tragedy; it’s a masterclass in local leadership, civic love, and the long, hard road of recovery. Episode Highlights: “Right now, you just be here.” What a retired firefighter told Kathy in the fire station hours after the tornado and why presence matters more than action in leadership. The First Hours After Impact How Mayfield’s emergency response unfolded, and why agriculture workers cleared the first roads when no one else could. A Teacher at the Helm Why Kathy’s decades in the classroom prepared her to speak in national press conferences and hold a city’s hope together. The Power of Local Ties How former students—now police officers, fire chiefs, and city attorneys—are helping rebuild the community they once sat in class to serve. Sticky Notes & a Front Porch Vision How Mayfield crowdsourced its recovery plan and why rebuilding isn’t just about buildings, but belonging. A Ten-Year Journey What Kathy has learned about sustaining leadership, avoiding burnout, and choosing to run for reelection in the face of exhaustion. Connect with Kathy O'Nan City of Mayfield: www.mayfieldky.gov About Our Sponsor: Zencity This episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast is made possible by Zencity—a trusted partner to hundreds of local governments around the world. Zencity is a software that enables local government leaders to gather, understand, and act on resident feedback, going beyond the "same ten people" to actually reach residents where they're at, and incorporate that feedback into decisions large and small. To learn more about how Zencity is helping turn data into action and insight into impact: Learn more at Zencity.io Connect with Seth Winterhalter: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter Website: www.HaltingWinter.com About HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions At HaltingWinter, we help local government leaders build thriving teams and resilient workplace cultures through keynotes, workshops, and leadership development programs rooted in the ABCs of Impactful Municipal Leadership. Learn more at HaltingWinter.com Seth's Upcoming Keynotes: 2025 Kentucky League of Cities Annual Conference & Expo September 23-26 | Owensboro, KY Details at KLC ELGL 2025 Conference | Camp Govlife October 1-3 | Santa Rose, CA Details at ELGL 2025 City Clerks New Law and Elections Seminar November 12-14 | Los Angeles, CA Details at CalCities 2025 Kansas City/County Management Association Annual Conference December 3-5 | Manhattan, KS Details at KCMA
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    1 h y 25 m