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The DOC Podcast

The DOC Podcast

By: DeLuke Orthodontic Coaching LLC
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The DOC Podcast brings you unique educational content taught by Dr. Mike DeLuke, a Board Certified Orthodontist with over 20 years of clinical and academic experience. Dr. DeLuke built his orthodontic practice from scratch in the early 2000s and grew it into a multimillion-dollar enterprise in less than 10 years. He was able to retire from his private practice at the age of 46 years old, and now devotes his energy to teaching his colleagues how to succeed both personally and professionally. He also provides locum tenens coverage for colleagues in South Florida. Dr. DeLuke has served as a faculty member at numerous hospitals and orthodontic residency programs around the country, including as the cleft craniofacial orthodontist at Albany Medical Center in New York, and as a clinical professor at The University of Connecticut in the Department of Orthodontics. He is presently an adjunct professor in the Department of Pediatric Dentistry at Healthcare Network and a Visiting Professor in the Department of Orthodontics at Montefiore Einstein Hospital in the Bronx. The DOC Podcast will bring you in-depth discussions and interviews with industry leaders and experts on a variety of topics, including clinical excellence, practice management, finance and wealth creation, health and wellness, taxes and accounting, fitness, and much more!2026 DeLuke Orthodontic Coaching, LLC Economics Science
Episodes
  • The Truth About Mouth Breathing, Sleep, & Sleep Medicine (w/Dr. Funke Brown) [Ep.170]

    The Truth About Mouth Breathing, Sleep, & Sleep Medicine (w/Dr. Funke Brown) [Ep.170]
    Aug 20 2026

    In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Funke Afolabi Brown, a triple board-certified sleep physician, founder of Restful Sleep MD, and best-selling author. We go way beyond the basics of sleep, exploring what "good sleep" actually means, why sleep medicine gets so little attention in physician and dental training, and why that has to change.

    Dr. Brown and I dig into the full spectrum of sleep-disordered breathing (it's so much more than just obstructive sleep apnea), the strengths and serious limitations of polysomnography versus home sleep testing, and why relying only on the AHI can cause us to miss patients who are genuinely struggling. We also spend a lot of time on the far-reaching effects of poor sleep in kids - behavior, learning, emotional regulation, and how sleep issues so often masquerade as ADHD.

    We talk candidly about why snoring and chronic mouth breathing should never be treated as "no big deal," why interdisciplinary collaboration between sleep physicians, pediatricians, ENTs, dentists, orthodontists, and myofunctional therapists is essential, and why I'm genuinely optimistic about where sleep medicine is headed.

    TIMESTAMPS

    • 0:00 — Cold open: sleep's impact on children isn't benign
    • 0:38 — Podcast welcome
    • 1:02 — Guest introduction: Dr. Funke Afolabi Brown
    • 4:20 — Interview begins
    • 5:39 — Dr. Brown's background and path into sleep medicine
    • 7:13 — Sleep education gaps in medical/dental training
    • 10:19 — Defining good sleep: quantity, quality, timing
    • 14:42 — Wearables, sleep tracking, and orthosomnia
    • 20:24 — Acute vs. chronic sleep problems and recovery
    • 26:52 — In-lab polysomnography: strengths and limitations
    • 37:28 — The sleep-disordered breathing spectrum
    • 41:10 — Primary snoring: why it's never normal
    • 46:14 — Allergies, nasal airway, and root causes
    • 48:12 — Chronic mouth breathing debate
    • 54:23 — Why physicians and dentists avoid the topic
    • 1:00:10 — ADHD and sleep-disordered breathing overlap
    • 1:08:57 — Home sleep testing and treatment options
    • 1:09:48 — The future of sleep medicine
    • 1:16:00 — Closing thoughts and where to find Dr. Brown

    If you found this conversation valuable, please share this episode with someone who needs to hear it, follow DOC Podcast on Instagram, and subscribe to the channel on YouTube so you never miss an episode.

    LINKS

    • Connect w/Dr. Brown:
    • Website: https://www.restfulsleepmd.com/
      Beyond Tired Book: https://a.co/d/2aSRSQt
      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/restfulsleepmd/
      LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drfunkebrown/
      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/funke.afolabibrown/
    • Register for the In-person Early Treatment Comprehensive: https://www.earlyorthotreatment.com/
    • The Generational Wealth Code: https://a.co/d/05TlkLJX
    • Join The DOC Community on Facebook for more great content and discussions: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Cb9rkQVde/
    • Check out the DOC CE Courses: https://theorthocoach.com/ce-courses/
    • Website: theorthocoach.com
    • YouTube: @theorthocoach
    • Instagram: @theorthocoach
    • Email: drmike@theorthocoach.com
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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • How to Use the Tax Advantages of Real Estate to Build Wealth (w/Christine Vento-Conway, CPA)[Ep.169]

    How to Use the Tax Advantages of Real Estate to Build Wealth (w/Christine Vento-Conway, CPA)[Ep.169]
    Aug 13 2026

    In this episode, I sit down again with Christine Vento Conway, Senior Vice President at Inland Securities, to dig into the real estate side of building generational wealth. We pick up where we left off with her family, this time focusing specifically on how real estate's tax advantages (1031 exchanges, DSTs, depreciation, and Qualified Opportunity Zones) can help investors defer, reduce, and even eliminate capital gains taxes.

    Christine breaks down the numbers, walks through real timelines and rules, and we compare these strategies to REITs so you know exactly which tool fits your situation. Whether you're a seasoned real estate investor or just getting started, this conversation will give you a clear framework for thinking about real estate as a tax strategy, not just an asset class.

    TIMESTAMPS

    • 0:00 – Introduction and catching up with Christine
    • 3:59 – Christine's role at Inland Securities and her CPA background
    • 10:59 – The four key benefits of real estate as an investment vehicle
    • 14:02 – Duplex vs. institutional real estate: diversification and risk
    • 18:57 – Breaking down the tax consequences of selling a property
    • 36:36 – The 1031 exchange timeline: the 45-day and 180-day rules
    • 37:28 – What a qualified intermediary does (and why you need one)
    • 49:20 – The three phases of a DST investment
    • 56:32 – How DST income and distributions are taxed
    • 1:12:13 – DSTs vs. REITs: what's the difference?
    • 1:15:24 – Qualified Opportunity Zones and the One Big Beautiful Bill Act
    • 1:27:41 – Who qualifies: accredited investor requirements and minimums
    • 1:29:17 – How to get in touch with Christine

    If this conversation gave you a new way of thinking about real estate, please don't keep it to yourself. Send this episode to your financial advisor or CPA, since many of them aren't familiar with DSTs. Pick up a copy of *The Generational Wealth Code* to go even deeper, and if you want to explore these strategies for your own portfolio, reach out to Christine directly at conway@inland-securities.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who could benefit from a smarter approach to real estate and taxes.

    LINKS

    • Purchase The Generational Wealth Code: https://a.co/d/0cye2Lqu
    • Email Christine: conway@inland-securities.com
    • Call Christine: 917-410-7725
    • First Episode w/Vento Family:
    • Second Episode w/John Vento Sr:
    • Register for the In-person Early Treatment Comprehensive: https://www.earlyorthotreatment.com/
    • Join The DOC Community on Facebook for more great content and discussions: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Cb9rkQVde/
    • Check out the DOC CE Courses: https://theorthocoach.com/ce-courses/
    • Website: theorthocoach.com
    • YouTube: @theorthocoach
    • Email: drmike@theorthocoach.com
    • Instagram: @theorthocoach
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    1 hr and 32 mins
  • The Role of the Nasal Passageways in Airway Disease (w/Dr. Peter Catalano)

    The Role of the Nasal Passageways in Airway Disease (w/Dr. Peter Catalano)
    Aug 6 2026
    OverviewIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Peter Catalano - an otolaryngologist, rhinology fellowship director, and pioneer of minimally invasive nasal surgery. Dr. Catalano has held appointments at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, the Lahey Clinic, and Tufts University, and has spent over three decades developing and publishing on targeted nasal airway surgery. I've had the privilege of working with Dr. Catalano on a major article addressing mouth breathing, and our conversation here is one of the most important I've had on this platform.We go deep into the science of nasal airflow, the structural and institutional barriers preventing children from getting the care they need, and the very real consequences (neurological, behavioral, cardiovascular, and craniofacial) of untreated mouth breathing and sleep-disordered breathing. We also address the myths and dogmas that continue to persist in both the ENT and orthodontic worlds, and what it's going to take to break them down.If you've ever wondered why the two worlds of dentistry and medicine remain so siloed on this issue, or what it means for patients when they fall through the crack, this episode is for you.Timestamps0:00 – Introduction and Dr. Catalano's background: ENT, skull base surgery, academic appointments at Mount Sinai, Lahey Clinic, and Tufts University4:10 – How Dr. Catalano's career trajectory led him from engineering to medicine to rhinology — and the philosophy of fate and the "hidden angel" guiding his path9:12 – The MicroShaver revolution: meeting Dr. Setliff in South Dakota and the aha moment that changed everything about minimally invasive sinus surgery11:13 – The unexpected discovery: patients reporting they stopped snoring after sinus surgery, and how that led to a focus on nasal airway and sleep-disordered breathing13:18 – [Ad] Early Orthodontic Treatment Comprehensive — a two-day hands-on immersive course with Dr. Daniel Camacho, Fort Lauderdale, FL, November 13–14. Click the link in the show notes to register.14:27 – The 2009 Singapore breakthrough: Dr. Deyun Wang and computational flow dynamics — why no one actually knew how air moved through the nose until then19:32 – Why previous nasal surgeries failed for OSA, and what "follow the airflow" means for surgical targets between the eyes20:30 – Why making big holes in sinuses made things worse — and why the sinuses don't actually ventilate during breathing23:58 – How the superior airway and structures like the uncinate process and concha bullosa became key surgical targets, producing a 15–20% improvement in airflow26:08 – The insurance dilemma and medical-legal risks that prevent ENTs from performing airway surgery — even when the data is clear30:03 – The ferret studies and the "never operate under 16" dogma: how flawed 1980s animal models became entrenched standard of care for pediatric ENT surgery35:48 – Parallels to hormone replacement therapy and the rampant hypocrisy in academic medicine — how good studies get buried and bad ones persist40:55 – How Dr. Catalano fought back against an insurance company, changed their pediatric sinus surgery policy, and survived multiple attempts to have his medical license revoked47:12 – The Harvold monkey studies: why the obligate nasal breather argument is wrong, why the studies are foundational, and what it means that no one could repeat them today58:07 – Children don't just "outgrow" airway obstruction: why the lymphoid involution argument is true but dangerously misleading when 90% of craniofacial growth is complete by age 81:13:57 – CBCT in ENT and orthodontic practice: why orthodontists need to learn to read the full image, how Dr. Catalano and Dr. John Walker found hidden tumors, and why rhinology-focused ENTs already use equivalent imaging1:17:33 – Nocturnal enuresis and airway: the pituitary/ADH connection, why these children ask about bedwetting the moment they wake from surgery, and the anecdotal but compelling clinical evidence1:27:15 – Swell body reduction: how a novel procedure Dr. Catalano pioneered in 2015 went from being met with rotten tomatoes at conferences to becoming standard of careClosingIf this conversation resonated with you, I want to encourage you to share it with your colleagues, your dental and medical partners, and anyone who works with young patients who struggle to breathe. This is exactly the kind of interdisciplinary dialogue that can change outcomes for kids who are being told to wait it out.LINKSDr. Peter Catalano: Email: catalanop9@gmail.comAJODO Article on Mouth Breathing: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40057896/Join The DOC Community on Facebook for more great content and discussions (https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Cb9rkQVde/)Register for the In-person Early Treatment Comprehensive: https://www.earlyorthotreatment.com/ Join The DOC Community on Facebook for more great content and discussions: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Cb9rkQVde/Check out...
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    1 hr and 27 mins
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