Can LLMs replace structured systems to scale enterprises?

Jason Ganz, Senior Manager DX at dbt Labs, joins Simon Maple to unpack why, despite the rapid rise of AI systems, enterprises still rely on structured data for consistency and reliable decision making.

They also discuss:

• the invisible edge cases LLMs can’t see
• difference between software engineering and data engineering in AI
• the mismatch between AI output and business logic
• what the data engineer of the future actually does

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

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1. Jason Ganz (LinkedIn)- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasnonaz/
2. Jason Ganz (X)- https://x.com/jasnonaz
3. dbt Labs- https://www.getdbt.com/
4. dbt Fusion engine- https://www.getdbt.com/product/fusion
5. dbt Community- https://www.getdbt.com/community
6. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
7. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
8. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

00:00 Trailer
01:01 Introduction
01:41 dbt Labs
04:39 Data engineers
07:39 LLMs understanding
13:15 AI isn’t as lazy as humans
15:29 Problem: the scaffolding to get data
17:38 Best contextual results
19:40 Dealing with security
25:00 Structured data
27:37 Problems with LLMs and data
29:47 Exact numbers
32:10 Hallucinations
34:28 Human validation
36:20 MCP servers
39:09 UX bottlenecks
42:27 Quality of data
44:00 The future of data engineers
47:02 getdbt.com
48:09 Outro

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In this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny and Danny Allan unpack how security has reduced just to a concern from a roadblock for devs.

On the docket:

• why 80% of Snyk’s enterprise customers are actively using AI tools
• navigating security risks of today and tomorrow
• the recurring flaw in every new stack
• why more code means more vulnerabilities

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1. Danny Allan- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyallan/
2. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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On the docket:

• how Synthesia enables full video editability even after generation
• Victor’s vision for fully coded videos that enable personalized, customizable viewing
• Victor’s belief that future generations will prefer visuals over any kind of text

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

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1. Victor Riparbelli- https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorriparbelli/
2. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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