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Science of Reading: The Podcast will deliver the latest insights from researchers and practitioners in early reading. Via a conversational approach, each episode explores a timely topic related to the science of reading.

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  • Science of Reading Essentials: Dyslexia
    Oct 8 2025

    In this special dyslexia-focused Essentials episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert pulls from past episodes to summarize everything you need to know about dyslexia, from experts Emily Lutrick, Ed.D.; Nadine Gaab, Ph.D.; Tim Odegard, Ph.D.; Sally Shaywitz, M.D.; and Francisco Usero-González, Ph.D. You'll also hear first-hand accounts from young people about their personal experiences with dyslexia, reading, and the education system. Even if you have little prior knowledge of dyslexia, you’ll walk away from this episode with a foundational understanding of the condition, including what it is, what causes it, how to identify it, the importance of early screening, how it is a continuum, methods for intervention, and more.

    Show notes:

    • Resources
      • Access free high-quality resources at our brand new professional learning page: http://amplify.com/science-of-reading/professional-learning
      • Listen to these additional full-length episodes about dyslexia:
        • Diagnosing dyslexia in multilingual learners, with Francisco Usero-González
        • Growing up with dyslexia, with Kareem Weaver, Margaret Malaika Weaver, and Elijah Valencia
        • Dyslexia: Where we started; where we're going, with Sally Shaywitz
        • Debunking the "gift" of dyslexia, with Tim Odegard
        • A conversation about growing up with dyslexia, with Hadyn Fleming
        • Dyslexia and developmental trajectories, with Nadine Gaab
        • The facts and myths of dyslexia, with Emily Lutrick
    • Join our community Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading

    Episode Timestamps*
    00:27 Introduction to SoR: Essentials
    01:02 Susan’s personal connection with dyslexia
    02:53 Accounts from young people on their experience of dyslexia
    05:09 Defining dyslexia with Dr. Emily Lutrick
    06:53 Dyslexia as a reading disability with Dr. Nadine Gaab
    07:39 Three key characteristics of people with dyslexia with Dr. Tim Odegard
    09:42 Longitudinal study with Dr. Sally Shaywitz
    11:54 The causes of dyslexia
    13:09 Early identification and effective intervention
    15:22 Discrepancy model/Waiting to fail model
    16:35 How early is too early to screen for dyslexia
    18:37 How to know when a student is at risk for dyslexia
    21:54 Identifying risk factors in older students
    22:54 Decoding nonsense words
    24:27 The power of naming a struggle
    25:28 The importance of having a cohesive system in place
    26:43 Screening students in their home language with Dr. Francisco Paco Usero Gonzalez
    29:45 Dyslexia as a continuum
    33:41 Final thoughts from young people on dyslexia
    36:12 Preview of upcoming episode


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    37 m
  • S10 E2: Orthographic mapping is a cognitive process, with Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.
    Sep 24 2025

    In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D., founder of The Reading Institute and director of the Advanced Certificates in Reading Science, Brooklyn College. An expert in orthographic mapping, Pace Miles explains why it’s a cognitive process, why that means it can’t be “taught,” and how we can instead leverage an understanding of it to inform instructional practices across reading, writing, and spelling to improve comprehension. Pace Miles outlines what it takes to develop good word-reading habits in emergent readers, and offers step-by-step advice on how to implement quick intervention when needed.

    Show notes:

    • Submit your questions on comprehension!
    • Access free, high-quality resources at our brand-new companion professional learning page.
    • Connect with Katie Pace Miles:
      • Website: https://www.katiepacemilesphd.com/
      • Instagram: @thereadinginstitutenyc
    • Resources:
      • Book: Making Words Stick: A Four-Step Instructional Routine to Power Up Orthographic Mapping
      • Article: ”Phases of Development in Learning to Read and Spell Words” by Linnea C. Ehri
      • Podcast episode: The joy of reading aloud, with Molly Ness
    • Join our community Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading
    • Connect with Susan Lambert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-lambert-edd-b1512761/
    • Check out Season 2 of the Beyond My Years podcast at.amplify.com/bmy

    Quotes:

    "You don't teach orthographic mapping, 'cause, again, that's a cognitive process, but you can facilitate support for long-term storage of words." —Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    "Never acquiesce to illiteracy. We all, as a community that supports all readers, have to figure out what instruction needs to be provided and what dosage over what duration of time … and it will happen." —Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    "If you're focused only on phonics and not on spelling, you are going to miss a whole bunch of decoding instruction, word analysis work." —Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    "You don't need a Ph.D. to have that knowledge. That should come in all teacher training. The complexity of the English language—every teacher I've ever met can handle it once we teach it." —Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    Episode timestamps*
    03:00 Introduction: Who is Katie Pace Miles?
    04:00 Beginnings as a teacher
    07:00 Book: Making Words Stick: A four step instructional routine to power up orthographic mapping
    10:00 The motivation behind the book
    13:00 Orthographic mapping as a cognitive process
    17:00 Can you teach orthographic mapping?
    19:00 Research behind the theory of orthographic mapping
    24:00 Developing good word reading habits with emergent readers
    28:00 Reading-spelling connection
    32:00 Rubberband analogy: Developing speaking and reading skills in tandem
    34:00 Orthographic mapping can support or impede comprehension
    39:00 Intervention
    43:00 Activities and strategies from the book
    44:00 Final thoughts
    *Timestam

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    49 m
  • S10 E1: The (not so) Simple View of Reading, with Wesley Hoover, Ph.D.
    Sep 10 2025

    In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Wesley Hoover, a psycholinguist at the University of Texas at Austin, to discuss the Simple View of Reading and how it can serve as the basis for our understanding of comprehension. Wesley digs into all the complexities of this model—which is only simple at a high level—including the meaning of language comprehension vs. reading comprehension, the impact of word recognition, and using the simple view to identify struggling students. He’ll even address the limitations of the simple view of reading, untangle common misconceptions, and give you tools for assessing the value of any model for reading that you might encounter.

    Show notes:

    • Submit your questions on comprehension!
    • Access free, high-quality resources at our brand-new, companion professional learning page: http://amplify.com/science-of-reading/professional-learning
    • Resources:
      • Listen: Science of Reading Essentials: Comprehension
      • Read: The Primacy of Science in Communicating Advances in the Science of Reading
    • Join our community Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading
    • Connect with Susan Lambert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-lambert-edd-b1512761/
    • Check out Season 2 of the Beyond My Years podcast at.amplify.com/bmy

    Quotes:

    "Language comprehension is unbounded… the knowledge of the world and being able to express the knowledge of the world in language—that's always a key difficulty you work on for your entire life.” —Wesley Hoover, Ph.D.

    “If you're a teacher thinking about language comprehension, whatever time you devote to helping people understand language, if you can be effective in doing that, you'll never waste a kid's time.” —Wesley Hoover, Ph.D.

    "To be a reader, you have to be good at two things: word recognition and language comprehension. Both of them are necessary components of reading, but neither one of them is sufficient on its own.”—Wesley Hoover, Ph.D.

    Episode timestamps*
    03:00 Introduction: Wesley Hoover and the simple view of reading
    06:00 What is the simple view of reading?
    08:00 What is language comprehension?
    10:00 What is word recognition?
    11:00 Defining reading comprehension
    12:00 Dr. Gough’s big A-Ha! Moment
    15:00 Reading competency
    16:00 Misconceptions of the simple view of reading
    21:00 Changing the size of the boxes
    23:00 Extension of the simple view
    26:00 Using the simple view to identify kids that are struggling
    29:00 What the simple view does or does not address
    33:00 Navigating models of reading comprehension
    35:00 Is the simple view outdated?
    38:00 Why is comprehension worth exploring?
    41:00 Final advice
    *Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute

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    44 m
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It was very interesting and informative.Thank you for our kids.
The Writing Revolution book is amazing.

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Inspired to listen to Dr. Shaywitz. Her wisdom, her commitment are unparalleled. Listen. Share. Act.

Inspiring. Eorth sharing.

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