Safeonomics Season 3 | Episode 11 with Shawn Galloway

In this episode of Safeonomics, I sit down with Shawn Galloway to explore what safety excellence really looks like in today’s complex, unpredictable world. Drawing from his “Think Octopus, Not Tin Man” framework, Shawn challenges traditional, rigid approaches to safety and makes the case for adaptive systems, distributed leadership, and learning that happens where the work actually gets done. We discuss why many well-intentioned safety programs struggle to deliver results, how curiosity and experimentation drive real improvement, and what leaders must stop doing if they want safety to truly scale. This conversation is a must-listen for safety professionals who feel the old playbook no longer fits the realities they face every day. The article from LinkedIn: Think Octopus, Not Tin Man