In this playful and insightful episode, Jillian and Meg dive into the world of personality tests and how understanding yourself can become a powerful tool in both life and work. From CliftonStrengths to 16 Personalities, DISC, Enneagram, and even a touch of Human Design, this conversation explores how these frameworks can reflect our tendencies, illuminate our strengths, and reveal blind spots we may otherwise miss.

This episode is not about boxing anyone in. It is about awareness, permission, and stepping into the truest version of yourself.

CliftonStrengths

Jill shares her top strengths of connection, positivity, empathy, developer, and strategic, and how reading them felt like being deeply understood. She and Meg unpack how strengths evolve over time and how they show up differently in entrepreneurship.

Why Self Awareness Matters

Both hosts reflect on how understanding their own thinking, tendencies, and energy patterns directly impacts their confidence, teamwork, and leadership.

16 Personalities Results

Both Jill and Meg surprisingly (or not surprisingly!) score as ENFJ-A the protagonist. They explore what each trait actually means in plain language and how this profile aligns with their work on the podcast and in their careers. They discuss assertiveness, judging, empathy, and the difference between being emotional and being emotionally stable.

Human Design Insights

Both are Manifesting Generators. Jill and Meg unpack what it means to follow what lights you up, pivot quickly, and make decisions after riding an emotional wave. They explore how this framework can remove shame about how they naturally work and create.

DISC Assessment

They compare their different DISC profiles and talk candidly about what it means to embrace traits like dominance, steadiness, influence, and support. A powerful breakthrough occurs around Jill owning her assertiveness and dominance as strengths rather than liabilities.

Enneagram Preview

Meg shares how her Enneagram type shifts under stress and health and how this mirrors the concept of default patterns. Jill gets excited to dig into this more in a future episode.

Awareness creates choice

When you understand your tendencies, you can direct them instead of reacting from them.

Your strengths are not random

They show up everywhere. In how you think. How you communicate. How you lead. How you create.

Blind spots are not weaknesses

They are simply places to seek support or delegate, not parts of yourself to judge.

Your natural rhythm is valid

Whether you work in creative bursts, need simmer time to make decisions, or pivot fast, you are not broken.

Language matters

Words like dominant or bossy may carry old meaning, but they can also be powerful traits when reframed.

No one fits in a box

These tools are simply mirrors. Not definitions.

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In this conversation, Jill and Meg unpack the concept of human defaults. They explore how our nervous systems and life experiences shape the patterns we fall back on, especially under stress. Together they examine how awareness, self trust, and curiosity can help us shift from fear based reactions to conscious choices in both life and work.

Key Themes:

• Understanding the nervous system’s role in default behaviors
• Recognizing fear based reactions in leadership and relationships
• The power of awareness and self trust as the opposite of fear
• The spiral staircase of growth and learning the same lessons at deeper levels
• Using pattern interruption and the Deepest Fear Inventory to change subconscious patterns

Quotes:

• “When things get hard, we revert back to our defaults. It makes sense because it takes energy to grow.”
• “Fear drives us back to what feels safe, even if it no longer serves us.”
• “Everything is solvable. Take one step at a time.”
• “You learn the same lessons over and over again, just at higher levels of awareness.”
• “The stuff you don’t deal with goes down to the basement and lifts weights.”

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Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned:

• Self Master Program: https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Deepest Fear Inventory Exercise:
• Dear God,
• I hate and resent (what I desire)
• I absolutely refuse to have/be (what I desire)
• Because I have a deep fear... (fill in the blank with whatever comes up) 20x
• Dear God - I ask that you remove these fears. I pray only for knowledge of your will for me and the power to carry it out. Thank you
• Then RIP IT UP!!!

In this heartfelt conversation, Meg opens up about recurring relationship patterns, overgiving, and the struggle to let go of control. Jillian helps her unpack what happens when we skip the “middle space” between awareness and empowerment, the emotional processing that keeps us human. Together, they explore self judgment, pattern interruption, and how curiosity can transform both relationships and inner peace.

Key Themes:

• Recognizing emotional patterns and breaking cycles through awareness
• The importance of feeling before fixing
• How self judgment mirrors judgment of others
• The power of curiosity as an antidote to judgment
• Pattern interruption as a way to shift relationship dynamics

Quotes:

• “Trying to control has resulted in losing control because I’m skipping the middle piece of actually feeling it.”
• “If you’re judging yourself, you’re absolutely judging others and vice versa.”
• “Curiosity is the antidote to judgment.”
• “It’s okay for me to be disappointed. It’s okay for me to be frustrated. It’s okay to cry.”
• “Relationships connect us to our humanity. They have to be front and central to who we are.”

We'd love to connect with you.

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Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

From car breakdowns to life breakdowns, this solo episode explores how to navigate unexpected changes with grace and self-compassion. Meg shares her three-step self-mastery framework and real-life stories about transforming disruptions into opportunities for growth through awareness, acceptance, and empowered action.

Themes we explore:

• Flexibility and adaptation when plans fall apart
• Moving from victim mindset to hero mindset
• The power of self-compassion and releasing judgment
• Three-step self-mastery framework: Awareness, Acceptance, Empowerment
• How self-love creates ripple effects in all relationships
• Trusting that things happen "for you, not to you"

Quotes worth remembering:

"Meet yourself where you are today, not where you think you should be."

"Things happen for you, not to you—even when it doesn't feel that way."

"Simple doesn't mean easy, but it becomes more natural with practice."

"When you treat yourself with compassion, it changes how you show up for everyone else."

"Take a zoomed-out, non-judgmental view of your life and patterns."

Takeaways:

• Disruptions might be redirections in disguise
• Self-awareness without judgment is the first step to change
• Acceptance of where you are creates space for empowered action
• Self-compassion has ripple effects on parenting, relationships, and work
• Regular practice makes these mindset shifts more natural over time

We'd love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah-ha moments mean the world to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Self Mastery Program mentioned in this episode: https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program

We often think of conflict as a threat. In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the idea of “sparring partners,” the people who push us, stretch us, and sharpen us, in business, family, and life. They share stories of work tension, marriage, parenting, and personal growth, and how reframing these challenges as opportunities can move us from victim to empowered participant.

Themes we explore:

• Reframing conflict: victim vs. empowered mindset
• Healthy sparring vs. toxic dynamics
• Agreements as the foundation of growth partnerships
• Marriage, children, and parents as our first sparring partners
• Rupture and repair in relationships
• Extracting lessons even when others don’t grow
• Why our closest relationships are our greatest teachers

Quotes worth remembering:

• “A sparring partner is someone who pushes you just enough to grow.”
• “Conflict doesn’t have to mean victimhood, it can mean empowerment.”
• “Armor up and you’ll miss the lesson. Stay open and you’ll grow.”
• “Rupture and repair are part of every healthy relationship.”
• “Children are our greatest mirrors and our greatest teachers.”
• “You don’t need their growth as a prerequisite for your own.”
• “We get to decide if we’ll be victims of conflict or empowered by it.”

Takeaways:

• Reframe difficult people as sparring partners who refine you.
• Growth requires healthy tension, not toxic dynamics.
• Agreements create safety in sparring partnerships.
• Parenting, marriage, and business all mirror the same lesson: conflict can be a teacher.
• Your growth doesn’t depend on someone else’s, stay in your lane and learn the lesson.

We’d love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah-ha moments mean the world to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

Connect with Jillian:

• Website: Trellis
• LinkedIn
• Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

• Website: profoundwellness.net
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/megan.fikse
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/m.laidlaw

We’ve been told exhaustion means success. In this episode, Meg and Jill dismantle the toxic badge of burnout and explore why rest is not a luxury — it’s the foundation of sustainable high performance. They share personal stories from corporate life, healthcare, and home, plus practical ways to insert rest into busy days without guilt.

Themes we explore:

• Why burnout is celebrated (and why it shouldn’t be)
• How micro-pauses (5 minutes) reset mind and body
• “I am her now” mantra — becoming your future self today
• Rest as a prerequisite for performance, not a reward after
• Breaking hustle culture with intentional routines
• Nurses, self-advocacy, and sustainable caregiving
• Shifting from grind to sustainability: work hard, play hard, rest well

Quotes worth remembering:

• “Burnout is not a badge of honor, so stop wearing it as such.”
• “Rest is the prerequisite of high performance, not the reward after performance.”
• “Be who you want to be in the future right now: I am her now.”
• “Diluted focus gets diluted results.”
• “If we only rest when the work is done, we’ll never rest — the work is never done.”
• “Take care of you first and the rest will come.”
• “Work hard, play hard, and rest well.”

Takeaways:

• Rest and micro-pauses prevent burnout and actually improve productivity.
• Sustainable performance means weaving rest into your rhythm, not bolting it on after.
• Changing hustle culture starts with one brave choice at a time.
• Healthcare, corporate, and entrepreneurial worlds all share the same trap — and the same solution.

We’d love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah-ha moments mean the world to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

We were told to be “professional” which too often meant “be a robot.” Meg and Jillian unpack why regulated emotion at work is not only human, it’s healthy and productive. From a raw story at the bedside to boardroom norms, they share how leaders can “go first,” how tears and trembles reset the nervous system, and simple micro-practices (20 seconds to 3 minutes) that prevent blowups and build trust.

Light advisory: Brief mention of infant loss.

Themes we explore:

• Why “no feelings at work” is a harmful myth
• Armor vs. authenticity (and how it affects performance)
• Nervous-system basics: crying, shaking, co-regulation
• Micro-practices: debriefs, short walks, permission to pause
• Leaders go first: modeling regulated emotion and safety
• Parenting parallels → better management habits
• “Slow down to speed up”: the business case for humane work

Quotes worth remembering:

• “Crying isn’t cracking. It’s a reset for the nervous system.”
• “When I see people emotional at work, it shows me that they care.”
• “Armor doesn’t serve us or our employers. It shuts down the parts of us that could make the biggest impact.”
• “Leaders go first. When you show your humanity, you give everyone else permission to do the same.”
• “The worst thing you can say to a child is ‘Don’t cry.’ That’s how we teach people to stuff emotions instead of moving through them.”
• “Slow down to speed up. Pausing for emotion makes us more effective, not less.”
• “Be brave enough to go first, even if you’re the only one. That’s how change starts.”

Takeaways

• Regulated emotion ≠ weakness; it’s how we reset and think clearly.
• Tiny releases (20s–3m) beat repressed feelings that explode later.
• Leaders can create micro safe spaces today—no policy change required.

We’d love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah-ha moments mean the world to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

In this fun, lighter episode, Meg quizzes Jillian on all the acronyms and business lingo she throws around. From ROI to ARR to KPIs, they break down what these terms really mean, how they apply in real life, and why clarity and values matter more than jargon. A great listen for anyone who’s ever felt lost in “business-speak” but still wants to lead with heart.

Top Topics

• ROI, Revenue, ARR: demystifying core business terms.
• Bootstrapping vs. outside funding (PE/VC).
• KPIs and BHAGs: measuring success without losing humanity.
• Conversion rates & reframing sales as service.
• Why every company should hand new hires a glossary.

Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

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Website: profoundwellness.net

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