In this playful and insightful episode, Jillian and Meg dive into the world of personality tests and how understanding yourself can become a powerful tool in both life and work. From CliftonStrengths to 16 Personalities, DISC, Enneagram, and even a touch of Human Design, this conversation explores how these frameworks can reflect our tendencies, illuminate our strengths, and reveal blind spots we may otherwise miss.

This episode is not about boxing anyone in. It is about awareness, permission, and stepping into the truest version of yourself.

CliftonStrengths

Jill shares her top strengths of connection, positivity, empathy, developer, and strategic, and how reading them felt like being deeply understood. She and Meg unpack how strengths evolve over time and how they show up differently in entrepreneurship.

Why Self Awareness Matters

Both hosts reflect on how understanding their own thinking, tendencies, and energy patterns directly impacts their confidence, teamwork, and leadership.

16 Personalities Results

Both Jill and Meg surprisingly (or not surprisingly!) score as ENFJ-A the protagonist. They explore what each trait actually means in plain language and how this profile aligns with their work on the podcast and in their careers. They discuss assertiveness, judging, empathy, and the difference between being emotional and being emotionally stable.

Human Design Insights

Both are Manifesting Generators. Jill and Meg unpack what it means to follow what lights you up, pivot quickly, and make decisions after riding an emotional wave. They explore how this framework can remove shame about how they naturally work and create.

DISC Assessment

They compare their different DISC profiles and talk candidly about what it means to embrace traits like dominance, steadiness, influence, and support. A powerful breakthrough occurs around Jill owning her assertiveness and dominance as strengths rather than liabilities.

Enneagram Preview

Meg shares how her Enneagram type shifts under stress and health and how this mirrors the concept of default patterns. Jill gets excited to dig into this more in a future episode.

Awareness creates choice

When you understand your tendencies, you can direct them instead of reacting from them.

Your strengths are not random

They show up everywhere. In how you think. How you communicate. How you lead. How you create.

Blind spots are not weaknesses

They are simply places to seek support or delegate, not parts of yourself to judge.

Your natural rhythm is valid

Whether you work in creative bursts, need simmer time to make decisions, or pivot fast, you are not broken.

Language matters

Words like dominant or bossy may carry old meaning, but they can also be powerful traits when reframed.

No one fits in a box

These tools are simply mirrors. Not definitions.

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Giveaway winners

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In this conversation, Jill and Meg unpack the concept of human defaults. They explore how our nervous systems and life experiences shape the patterns we fall back on, especially under stress. Together they examine how awareness, self trust, and curiosity can help us shift from fear based reactions to conscious choices in both life and work.

Key Themes:

• Understanding the nervous system’s role in default behaviors
• Recognizing fear based reactions in leadership and relationships
• The power of awareness and self trust as the opposite of fear
• The spiral staircase of growth and learning the same lessons at deeper levels
• Using pattern interruption and the Deepest Fear Inventory to change subconscious patterns

Quotes:

• “When things get hard, we revert back to our defaults. It makes sense because it takes energy to grow.”
• “Fear drives us back to what feels safe, even if it no longer serves us.”
• “Everything is solvable. Take one step at a time.”
• “You learn the same lessons over and over again, just at higher levels of awareness.”
• “The stuff you don’t deal with goes down to the basement and lifts weights.”

We'd love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah ha moments mean the world to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned:

• Self Master Program: https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Deepest Fear Inventory Exercise:
• Dear God,
• I hate and resent (what I desire)
• I absolutely refuse to have/be (what I desire)
• Because I have a deep fear... (fill in the blank with whatever comes up) 20x
• Dear God - I ask that you remove these fears. I pray only for knowledge of your will for me and the power to carry it out. Thank you
• Then RIP IT UP!!!

In this heartfelt conversation, Meg opens up about recurring relationship patterns, overgiving, and the struggle to let go of control. Jillian helps her unpack what happens when we skip the “middle space” between awareness and empowerment, the emotional processing that keeps us human. Together, they explore self judgment, pattern interruption, and how curiosity can transform both relationships and inner peace.

Key Themes:

• Recognizing emotional patterns and breaking cycles through awareness
• The importance of feeling before fixing
• How self judgment mirrors judgment of others
• The power of curiosity as an antidote to judgment
• Pattern interruption as a way to shift relationship dynamics

Quotes:

• “Trying to control has resulted in losing control because I’m skipping the middle piece of actually feeling it.”
• “If you’re judging yourself, you’re absolutely judging others and vice versa.”
• “Curiosity is the antidote to judgment.”
• “It’s okay for me to be disappointed. It’s okay for me to be frustrated. It’s okay to cry.”
• “Relationships connect us to our humanity. They have to be front and central to who we are.”

We'd love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah ha moments mean the world to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

Connect with Jillian:

www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw