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Quality of Mind: Realising Exponential Potential.

Quality of Mind: Realising Exponential Potential.

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Quality of Mind - Exploring ’Before Psychology’ to create a foundational shift in performance, peace and potential. A game changing understanding of the Mind to transform Business. Realise exponential human potential in every aspect of business and work. Subscribe to hear interviews, examples and ideas, that might just change how you see the world.Copyright 2018 All rights reserved. Economía Espiritualidad Gestión Gestión y Liderazgo
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  • The Hidden Cause of Procrastination — It’s Not ''What'' You Think

    The Hidden Cause of Procrastination — It’s Not ''What'' You Think
    Mar 23 2026
    The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. What if procrastination isn’t a discipline problem at all — but a misunderstanding about how the mind works? Are you ready to explore the real cause of procrastination? In this episode, Piers is interviewed by Deborah Hurwitz, host of the Productivity for Perfectionists Summit. The conversation explores why so many intelligent, driven people struggle with procrastination, overthinking, and pressure — and why most solutions fail to address the real leverage point. Deborah asked some excellent questions to explore the Quality of Mind before psychology understanding. Rather than offering tools to manage thoughts, Piers points to something more fundamental: the understanding that our experience of life arises before psychology. Through practical examples, metaphors, and direct inquiry, the conversation explores how perfectionism, procrastination, and the “busy brain” are not problems to fix, but signals pointing to a deeper misunderstanding about the nature of the human experience. When this misunderstanding begins to dissolve, clarity, creativity, and ease naturally return — not through effort, but through insight. Key Discussion Takeaways Why trying to fix your thinking with more thinking is like trying to get dry in the shower without turning the water off The difference between application and implication when it comes to psychological insight Why perfectionists often feel stuck between control and procrastination How flow states reveal the absence of the “separate doer” The idea that our experience of life consists of thought, sensation, and perception Why psychological experiences can be real but never true How emotions and sensations act as indicators of how much we’re believing our thinking Why resisting feelings often intensifies them — and how simply allowing sensation dissolves the struggle What it means to explore the space before psychology, where clarity and possibility naturally arise Why the future we imagine through thinking is always finite, while the space before thought is infinite Key Chapters 00:00 – Trying to fix thinking with thinking 02:15 – Why the problem isn’t the problem 04:02 – The shower metaphor and the real leverage point 05:45 – Flow state and the absence of the separate self 09:30 – Procrastination and self-identification 10:15 – There is choosing, but no chooser 14:04 – Thought, sensation, and perception 18:18 – Real, but never true 22:00 – Sensation indicators and aperture 27:30 – Why we avoid feeling 28:00 – Leaning into sensation 31:41 – What lies upstream of the busy brain 34:31 – Infinite possibility before thought 37:30 – It happens by subtraction 38:40 – The Netflix screen metaphor 41:39 – The case of mistaken identity 44:12 – From invisible, to subtle, to obvious Curious? Want to know more? Explore Deborah Hurwitz’s Productivity for Perfectionists Summit, where this conversation originally took place. The summit brings together leading thinkers exploring fresh approaches to productivity, performance, and the pressures many high achievers place on themselves. Highly recommended. Explore all things Quality of Mind at www.qualityofmind.biz 3-Minute Quality of Mind Quiz Discover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace, and potential. Audio Intro Short Course A short introduction to the understanding behind Before Psychology. Get started with the e-book Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections. Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology. TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube All about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself.
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    45 m
  • What If the Self You’re Trying to Improve Isn’t There?

    What If the Self You’re Trying to Improve Isn’t There?
    Mar 6 2026
    The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. What if a huge amount of human stress, striving, and psychological effort comes from trying to fix, improve, and manage a self that isn’t actually what we think it is? Are you ready to explore that now? In this episode of the Quality of Mind: Transforming Business podcast, Piers is joined once again by regular guest and fellow Quality of Mind collaborator Katrijn Van Oudheudsen to explore her newly republished book, Seeing No Self. At a time when modern culture increasingly promotes self-optimisation, productivity hacks, and constant self-improvement, this conversation questions a deeper assumption behind it all: the idea that we are a separate psychological self who must constantly be fixed, improved, and managed. Through the lens of Direct Inquiry, Katrijn explains why this belief sits at the root of much unnecessary stress, pressure, and psychological effort — and how investigating our experience directly can reveal something very different. Rather than offering another philosophy, mindset technique, or spiritual belief system, Seeing No Self invites readers to explore a practical and experiential approach to discovering what we actually are before the psychological identity we spend so much energy maintaining. The conversation explores why this understanding is becoming increasingly relevant in a culture driven by identity, performance pressure, and personal responsibility — and why direct inquiry offers a simple yet powerful way to look beyond it. Key Discussion Takeaways The modern self-improvement culture can unintentionally reinforce psychological pressureThe belief in a separate self creates unnecessary stress and identity managementDirect Inquiry offers a practical way to investigate experience rather than adopt beliefsSeeing through the illusion of the self reveals natural peace, intelligence, and potentialThis understanding is relevant not only for wellbeing but also for leadership and performance Key Chapters include: 00:00 The Pressure of Modern Self-Improvement 03:30 What “Seeing No Self” Actually Means 04:40 The Hidden Resource Behind the Psychological Self 07:00 Why This Understanding Is Relevant for Everyone 10:50 The Cultural Pressure to Improve Ourselves 15:40 What Direct Inquiry Really Is 27:10 Why the Illusion of Self Is More Fragile Than It Appears 38:00 Direct Inquiry vs Traditional Spiritual Approaches 42:00 Why Most People Avoid Looking Directly 44:40 Why Inquiry Is Simpler Than We Think 46:50 Who This Book Is (and Isn’t) For Curious — want to know more? Buy, read and review the book now. You can find out more about Katrijn Van Oudheusden and her work on Daily Non-Duality Substack. Explore all things Quality of Mind at www.qualityofmind.biz 3-minute Quality of Mind QuizAudio Intro Short CourseGet started with the e-book. YouTube Explainer — What is Before Psychology? Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here. Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections. Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology. TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube all about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself. Enjoyed the episode? If this episode speaks to you, please follow, share, and leave a review. It helps more people discover a conversation that could genuinely change how they understand themselves, their work, and their lives.
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    55 m
  • From Mental Load to Clarity: A CEO’s Shift with Quality of Mind

    From Mental Load to Clarity: A CEO’s Shift with Quality of Mind
    Feb 15 2026
    The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. A real-world testimonial,: A CEO, what's changed a few months after Quality of Mind coaching

    Most leaders aren’t burnt out.

    They’re functioning.

    Delivering. Growing. Carrying.

    But underneath that capability, there can be a constant mental load — an invisible weight of control, responsibility, and inner management that never quite switches off.

    In this episode of Quality of Mind: Transforming Business, Piers is joined by Nicola Merritt, Founder and CEO of a 60-person M&A advisory firm.

    On paper, things were working.

    But internally, leadership felt heavier than it needed to.

    This conversation isn’t about tactics, resilience strategies, or productivity systems.

    It’s about what changed when Nicola began to see the source of her mental load differently — not at the level of behaviour, but at the level of understanding.

    In this episode, we explore:

    • Why high-performing leaders often create unnecessary psychological pressure

    • The difference between confidence and deeper self-assurance

    • How control subtly becomes exhausting

    • What happens when the need to constantly manage thinking begins to drop

    • Why clarity doesn’t need to be manufactured

    • The shift from striving to something more sustainable

    • How leadership matures when mental noise settles

    What changed?

    Nicola didn’t lose ambition.

    She didn’t reduce standards.

    She didn’t step back from responsibility.

    What shifted was her relationship with pressure amd clarity.

    The constant mental overdrive softened.

    She moved to a four-day week.

    She switched off her phone on holiday.

    She describes finding peace not only in stillness — but in the middle of business noise.

    Not because circumstances changed.

    Because understanding did.

    Who this conversation is for

    This episode will resonate if you:

    • Lead a growing organisation

    • Feel the invisible weight of responsibility

    • Are successful but quietly tired of the mental grind

    • Have tried systems, structures, and optimisation — but sense something deeper is missing

    Quality of Mind doesn’t offer tools to manage your psychology.

    It points to what sits before it. What we describe as Before Psychology

    And when that is seen clearly, leadership often becomes lighter — without becoming weaker.

    Resources & Links
    • You can find out more about Nicola here. And her business Cortus here
    • Explore all things Quality of Mind www.qualityofmind.biz

    • 3-minute Quality of Mind Quiz

    • Audio Intro Short Course

    • YouTube Explainer — What is Before Psychology?

    • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
    • Follow Piers on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections

    • Subscribe to our YouTube channel for quick, powerful insight videos

    • TASTE THE MANGO YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
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    35 m
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