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Play Therapy Podcast

Play Therapy Podcast

By: Dr. Brenna Hicks
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  • 363 | Reducing Attrition by Preparing Parents for Resistance
    Dec 18 2025

    In this episode, I respond to Elliott's question about children who strongly resist play therapy from the very beginning and parents who eventually give up and terminate early. I explain why early resistance is not a red flag for CCPT failure, but often a clear indicator of high anxiety, a deep need for control, and a child who desperately needs the therapeutic process. The real issue isn't the child's resistance—it's whether parents were fully prepared for it before therapy ever began.

    I walk through how to front-load expectations during the initial parent consultation by explaining the phases of therapy, normalizing resistance, and equipping parents with scripts for what to say and do when their child refuses to come, escalates, or tries to avoid sessions. When parents understand that giving in reinforces anxiety and avoidance, they're far more likely to stay the course. High attrition is almost always a communication problem, and when parents are prepared, children are given the consistency they need to work through their anxiety and reach natural termination.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    12 mins
  • 362 | CCPT Gamechangers: Why Overanalyzing the Play Becomes a Therapist Trap (Symbolic Play & Themes)
    Dec 16 2025

    In this Game Changers episode, I address a pattern I've been seeing everywhere: therapists becoming overly focused on identifying, interpreting, and assigning meaning to themes and symbolic play. I explain why this pulls us out of attunement, distracts us from the child, and risks turning CCPT into an interpretive exercise rather than a relational, child-centered process. Themes can absolutely be useful—but only in the context of parent consultations. In the playroom, our job is presence, attunement, and skill execution, not analysis.

    I also offer a strong caution against "making leaps" or weaving narratives out of play behaviors. Children are experiential and emotional, not symbolic theorists sending coded messages. They work through what they need to work through whether we understand it or not. When our skills become automatic and our presence is grounded, we naturally begin to recognize patterns—but that awareness should never come at the cost of focusing on the child. The play is just the play; our priority is always the child, the relationship, and the process that leads to healing.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams | Live Training Event at Steinbrenner Field
    More Info. & Registration go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    14 mins
  • 361 | Pricing Your Practice: The Real Math Behind Free Parent Consultations
    Dec 11 2025

    In this episode, I respond to Sarah's question about how to structure and charge for parent consultations in a child-centered private practice. I explain why free parent consults are not only clinically best practice but also essential for sustaining parent engagement, maintaining buy-in throughout the 30–40-session treatment arc, and ensuring parents feel informed despite not having access to client records. I walk through how these meetings are built into your overall fee structure, how to calculate your rate so the consult hours are accounted for, and why charging separately for them can undermine trust and create ethical tension.

    I also clarify the real workload involved, noting that once a caseload stabilizes, consults naturally stagger rather than cluster—typically only a few per month. Finally, I share how free consults strengthen the therapeutic relationship, enhance the parent's perception of value, and counter cultural misconceptions about therapists being financially motivated. When parents feel supported, informed, and valued, they stay committed to the CCPT process, which directly impacts child outcomes.

    CCPT: The Field of Dreams! - Live CCPT Training in Tampa, FL
    Go to https://corewellceu.com/tampa. For more information and to register for this LIVE training event in Tampa, FL on Saturday Jan 31, 2026.

    PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click!

    Topical Playlists! All of the podcasts are now grouped into topical playlists on YouTube. Please go to https://www.youtube.com/kidcounselorbrenna/playlists to view them.

    If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you.

    Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com
    Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com
    CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com
    Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com
    APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

    Common References:
    Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley.
    VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press.
    Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge.
    Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948
    Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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    13 mins
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