Part 8: An Appointment in Perth

A man banned from working in education in the aftermath of the Trojan Horse letter inspires Brian and Hamza to track down one last witness with him – in Australia. And all three travelers find their faith tested. To get full access to this show, and to other Serial Productions and New York Times podcasts on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, subscribe at nytimes.com/podcasts. To find out about new shows from Serial Productions, and get a look behind the scenes, sign up for our newsletter at nytimes.com/serialnewsletter. Have a story pitch, a tip, or feedback on our shows? Email us at [e-mail]

great reporting

Really worth while listen. I wish the end gave me a reason to believe in the goodness of my fellow humans, but things seldom work out the way they should when the outcome relies on people that have lied coming clean and facing the consequences of their actions.

Great example of search for truth

Great story. Intriguing power of the written word. Even if you suspect it's not true. It might be helpful to include an epilog to bring us up to date on the principals (no pun intended).

The SECOND-most powerful force on earth is… guilt.

It’s amazing the lengths to which guilty people will go to HIDE their guilt, cover their tracks and convince everyone - even THEMSELVES - that the source of guilt never happened. Yet even as guilty people try to hide from their past, hide from their choices, hide from their actions, hide from those they harmed, thinking this will suffice to allow them to start anew…
…they cannot hide from their GUILT. Or JUSTICE.

Every day JUSTICE will be waiting outside Mark’s office door in Perth - an unseen visitor with an unopened letter. Waiting. Waiting for Mark to finally open the door. Every day GUILT will try to hide on the other side of that door…

But Guilty is only the SECOND-most powerful force on earth.
JUSTICE is the MOST powerful, and TIME and man’s innate need for TRUTH are it’s greatest weapons.

This story isn’t over.

Not all stories can be told in a single telling. A single podcast. A single “season”. That is a false constraint imposed by a podcast Producer.

No, some stories are over only when Justice win out over Guilt.

Mark will yield.
He knows the unjustice he’s inflicted on his colleague Ahmed.
And he realizes now that even while he’s run to the edge of the world, he hasn’t escaped the guilt of something he’s done.

This story isn’t over.
Close…but NOT over.

Intriguing listen

My favorite to date. Riveting and intriguing. Gives wonderful insight as well. Just give it a listen.

review if the Trojan Horse

narration was good. both journalists were engaging. important story . love to hear more like it

a must listen

This is a very well done Podcast cast I think everyone needs to listen and consider the underlying issues uncovered.

captivating story. Hamza & Brian make a great team

great storytelling, the journalists have a somewhat comedic partnership that makes this an easy listen.

Interesting - but a nothing burger

Perhaps I would have enjoyed it a lot more if had been about half as long - a lot of build ups for no real payoffs
I also had a hard time understanding the speakers