Episodios

  • Inside the Making of U.S. Immigration Law
    Apr 9 2026
    The Center for Immigration Studies has released a new episode of its podcast featuring CIS experts Andrew “Art” Arthur and George Fishman, who reflect on their time working together on Capitol Hill, including their firsthand experiences on September 11, 2001, and the major immigration legislation that followed.

    The episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at how immigration laws are made. Arthur and Fishman recount the immediate aftermath of 9/11 as staffers on House Judiciary Committee and their roles in drafting legislation that helped reshape U.S. immigration enforcement, including efforts that contributed to the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the breakup of INS into enforcement and service components within the new Department of Homeland Security.

    The discussion also explores contentious debates over criminal penalties, interior enforcement, and proposals that sparked nationwide protests in the mid-2000s. From the USA PATRIOT Act to the REAL ID Act of 2005, the episode highlights how national security concerns reshaped immigration policy and how some key recommendations, such as the creation of a biometric entry-exit system, remain unfulfilled decades later.

    Podcast host and CIS executive director Mark Krikorian also reminds listeners of today’s International Network for Immigration Research (INIR) event (streamed live at noon ET) hosted by the Center. Panelists from CIS, NumbersUSA, FAIR, and the Budapest-based Migration Research Institute examine whether modern democracies can carry out large-scale deportations.

    Host

    Mark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Guests

    Andrew Arthur is the Resident Fellow of Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies.

    George Fishman is a Senior Legal Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Intro Montage

    Voices in the opening montage:
    • Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
    • Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
    • President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
    • Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
    • Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
    • Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
    • Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
    • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
    • Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
    • Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
    • Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.
    • Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    40 m
  • Maritime Frontlines: Border Tour Highlights
    Apr 2 2026
    The latest episode of the Center for Immigration Studies Podcast highlights the 13th Annual Border Tour. For the first time, the tour shifted away from land borders, bringing participants to South Florida to examine America’s maritime boundaries and the unique challenges they present.

    Hosted with assistance from Anthony Coker, Gov. Ron DeSantis’s “immigration czar”, the tour offered an in-depth look at Florida’s highly coordinated, “all-of-government” approach to immigration enforcement. Participants observed firsthand the seamless collaboration between federal and state agencies operating under 287(g) authority, which allows state and local officers to carry out certain federal immigration functions.

    The tour began with a roundtable of federal and state partners, underscoring the strength of these relationships. Attendees later joined the Florida Highway Patrol on a ride-along, witnessing real-time coordination with ICE, including routine traffic stops that included high-speed pursuits and arrests of illegal aliens, one of whom was a convicted murderer.

    Participants also joined Florida Fish and Wildlife officers and State Guard units on the water, where maritime enforcement operations are supported by radar systems capable of monitoring activity as far as the Bahamas.

    A visit to the state-run detention facility known as “Alligator Alcatraz” highlighted both operational capacity and humanitarian standards, including comprehensive medical care for detainees.

    The tour concluded with visits to an immigration court and a naturalization ceremony, where Mark Krikorian delivered the keynote address, offering a powerful reminder of the legal immigration process and the meaning of American citizenship.

    Florida’s model demonstrates how strong leadership and interagency cooperation can deliver effective, large-scale immigration enforcement.

    Host

    Mark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Guests

    Marguerite Telford is the Director of Communications at the Center for Immigration Studies.

    John Wahala is the Assistant Director at the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Related

    Inside Florida’s Alligator Alcatraz Detention Center

    Gov. Ron DeSantis on Florida’s Gold Standard Immigration Enforcement Model

    Intro Montage

    Voices in the opening montage:
    • Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
    • Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
    • President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
    • Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
    • Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
    • Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
    • Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
    • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
    • Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
    • Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
    • Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.
    • Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    35 m
  • Supreme Court to Hear Major Birthright Citizenship Case
    Mar 26 2026
    As the U.S. Supreme Court prepares to hear one of the most significant immigration cases in decades, a new podcast from the Center for Immigration Studies explores who is entitled to American citizenship at birth and which branch of government has the authority to define it.

    On April 1, the Court will hear Trump v. Barbara, a case challenging Executive Order 14160, which seeks to deny automatic citizenship to children born in the U.S. to parents who are in the country illegally or temporarily.

    In this episode, Hans von Spakovsky, Legal Fellow at Advancing American Freedom, and Andrew Arthur, the Center’s Fellow in Law and Policy, examine the central constitutional question: what does the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution actually mean?

    They argue that the framers intended citizenship to depend on political allegiance, not simply place of birth, pointing to early interpretations and contrasting them with the broader reading adopted in the late nineteenth century in United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

    The Court could affirm current interpretation of doctrine, defer to executive interpretation, or return the issue to Congress.“

    This will be one of the most consequential decisions in years,” von Spakovsky notes.

    In the closing commentary, Mark Krikorian, executive director and podcast host, highlights a separate upcoming Supreme Court case involving Temporary Protected Status (TPS), where the statute states clearly that there is no judicial review of TPS designations. What are the limits to judicial review and will the judiciary allow the executive to carry out immigration law as written by Congress?

    Host

    Mark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Guests

    Hans von Spakovsky is a Legal Fellow at Advancing American Freedom.

    Andrew Arthur is a Fellow in Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Related

    Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment

    The Best Aspects of the ‘Birthright Citizenship’ Debate

    Births to Illegal Immigrants and Long-Term Temporary Visitors

    The Supreme Court Takes Up a Vital, Slam-Dunk Immigration Case [TPS]

    Intro Montage

    Voices in the opening montage:
    • Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
    • Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
    • President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
    • Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
    • Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
    • Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
    • Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
    • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
    • Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
    • Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
    • Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.
    • Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    45 m
  • Virginia Sheriff Warns: Sanctuary Policies ‘Endanger Our Citizens’
    Mar 19 2026
    As Virginia considers limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities, Loudoun County Sheriff Mike Chapman warns in a new Parsing Immigration Policy podcast that such policies could undermine public safety.

    Both podcast host Jessica Vaughan, the Center’s Director of Policy Studies, and Chapman recently testified before the Senate Budget Committee on the fiscal and human costs of sanctuary jurisdictions.

    Chapman, a 14-year sheriff overseeing Virginia’s largest full-service sheriff’s office, described cooperation with federal authorities as standard law enforcement practice. He describes his 287(g) agreement with ICE, which enables his office to notify federal authorities when removable offenders in custody are scheduled for release and hold them for up to 48 hours for ICE to pick them up. In practice, he noted, ICE nearly always assumes custody without delay.

    “Why would I release a criminal alien back into the community to commit another crime? I’m not going to apologize for doing my job — keeping people safe.”

    In the discussion, Chapman also emphasized accountability in law enforcement, noting that as an elected sheriff, he answers directly to the public — not political leadership. This allows public safety to drive the mission, not politics.

    Key topics of the interview with Sheriff Chapman include:
    • How cooperation with ICE reduces the need for riskier at-large arrests
    • The role of detainers and advance notification in transferring custody
    • Why claims that cooperation discourages crime reporting are not true in practice
    • Concerns that requiring judicial warrants for civil detainers would “slow everything to a crawl”
    Chapman warned that proposed restrictions in Virginia, including limiting agreements with ICE and curtailing information-sharing, could replicate the public safety consequences seen in other sanctuary jurisdictions. The neighboring Fairfax County has had two murders recently, allegedly by individuals released despite detainers placed on them by ICE.

    Host

    Jessica Vaughan the Director of Policy Studies at the Center for Immigration Studies.

    Guest

    Mike Chapman is the Sheriff of Loudoun County, Virginia.

    Related

    Map: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States

    Which Sanctuary Jurisdictions Have Released the Most Criminals

    Testimony - Sanctuary Cities: The Cost of Undermining Law and Order

    Are Immigrants Less Willing to Report Crime?

    Intro Montage

    Voices in the opening montage:
    • Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
    • Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
    • President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
    • Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
    • Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
    • Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
    • Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
    • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
    • Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
    • Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
    • Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.
    • Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    42 m
  • Immigration Newsmaker: A Conversation with Rep. Brandon Gill
    Mar 12 2026
    U.S. Rep. Brandon Gill (TX) joined Mark Krikorian, the Center’s executive director, for an Immigration Newsmaker conversation discussing U.S. immigration policy, border security, and potential reforms to both legal and illegal immigration systems.“We’ve had open borders for four years, with an estimated 15 to 20 million illegal immigrants entering the United States,” Gill said. “It’s the biggest political crisis we’ve faced in decades. More fundamentally, immigration touches everything else — it is the one issue that determines who we are as a country and as a people.”Gill addressed enforcement policy, immigration levels, assimilation, and current political debates on immigration law.Key TakeawaysWorksite Enforcement and E-VerifyGill emphasized worksite enforcement as a core component of immigration policy, arguing that job opportunities in the U.S. serve as a major pull factor for illegal immigration.He called for mandatory use of E-Verify, saying illegal employment undercuts wages for working-class Americans and creates incentives for illegal immigration and allows some industries to operate on what he described as “a lawless employment structure.”Immigration Policy and Cultural AssimilationGill argued that immigration policy should prioritize the interests of American citizens and preserve the country’s distinct culture. He said the U.S. immigration system historically expected newcomers to avoid becoming a public charge and to assimilate culturally, noting that the country may need “several decades” to absorb and assimilate recent arrivals.Legal ImmigrationGill criticized the current family-based immigration system, which accounts for roughly 60 percent of legal admissions, and employment visa programs such as the H-1B program, arguing they are fraud-ridden and suppress wages.Welfare Use and Integration ConcernsGill highlighted welfare usage and English language statistics among Somalis in Minnesota, citing CIS research indicating that 78 percent of Somalis in Minnesota who have been in the U.S. for at least 10 years receive welfare benefits and that roughly half report limited English proficiency.Policy Debates in CongressGill also discussed the upcoming Supreme Court case addressing birthright citizenship and said the case could determine whether the president has authority to reinterpret existing policy or whether legislative or constitutional action would be required. He also credited the Trump administration with significantly improving border enforcement and called for codifying executive actions, including his proposed Remain in Mexico Act, reintroducing H.R. 2, and taking stronger actions against sanctuary jurisdictions, including defunding sanctuary jurisdictions and holding local officials legally liable for crimes committed by illegal immigrants released into communities.He also reminded listeners that immigration enforcement once enjoyed bipartisan support, but now moderate Democrats who supported enforcement are gone and mass migration has become a central political strategy for the Democratic Party making agreement difficult.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director at the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestU.S. Rep. Brandon Gill (TX)RelatedPress ReleasePanel VideoPanel TranscriptCIS Live StreamIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    31 m
  • National Security Threats Linked to the Biden-Era Border Crisis
    Mar 5 2026
    A new episode of Parsing Immigration Policy features a wide-ranging conversation on national security threats tied to the historic surge of illegal immigration during the Biden administration. Host Andrew Arthur, the Center’s Fellow in Law and Policy and a former immigration judge, interviews Mark Morgan, a former FBI agent who also served as Chief of the U.S. Border Patrol, Acting Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and Acting Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    In the episode, Morgan warns that the unprecedented number of illegal entries during the last administration created serious vulnerabilities for the United States. Under President Biden, 10.5 to 12 million inadmissible aliens were encountered at the border, most of whom were released into the United States. In addition, an estimated 1.5 to 1.8 million “got aways” - individuals observed crossing the border illegally but never apprehended -entered the country.

    “These are individuals we know nothing about, and the most difficult threats to stop are lone actors or small cells,” Morgan explains.

    Morgan emphasizes that border security is inseparable from national security, particularly as intelligence officials are warning of an elevated terrorism threat environment. The FBI and the broader intelligence community have described the current threat landscape as the most complex since the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

    The discussion also addresses concerns about potential Iranian sleeper cells and terrorist proxies following escalating tensions involving the Islamic Republic of Iran. Morgan explains that the Iranian regime was responsible for more American deaths than any other organization, and that they have historically relied on proxy groups such as Hezbollah to carry out attacks against U.S. interests.

    Arthur and Morgan also examine emerging threats from foreign adversaries, including concerns surrounding the entry of more than 200,000 Chinese nationals during the Biden administration and the broader risks posed by individuals arriving from 163 different countries, including individuals on the terrorist watchlist and thousands of “Special Interest Aliens” who entered daily from nations known to facilitate terrorism.

    Morgan concludes that the long-term consequences of the border crisis will continue to impact U.S. national security for years to come, underscoring the need for stronger enforcement, improved vetting, and policies that restore integrity to the immigration system.

    Host

    Art Arthur is the Resident Fellow in Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies

    Guest

    Mark Morgan isa former FBI agent who also served as Chief of the U.S. Border Patrol, Acting Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and Acting Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement

    Related

    Mark Morgan's new book, The Biden Border Crisis

    Operation Midnight Hammer and Threat of Iranian Sleeper Cells

    Thousands of Special Interest Aliens Posing Potential Security Risks Entering via CBP One App

    How to Lower the Risk of New Terror Strikes by Border-Crossing Islamist Extremists

    Biden Administration Secretly Let in Thousands of Unvetted Migrants from ‘Countries of National Security Concern’

    Intro Montage

    Voices in the opening montage:
    • Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
    • Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
    • President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
    • Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
    • Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
    • Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
    • Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
    • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
    • Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
    • Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
    • Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.
    • Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    39 m
  • Trump's SOTU Though an Immigration Policy Lens
    Feb 26 2026
    On Tuesday night, President Trump delivered a lengthy State of the Union (SOTU) address on Capitol Hill, during which immigration policy figured prominently. In this episode of Parsing Immigration Policy, guest host Jessica Vaughan, the Center's Director of Policy Studies, and guest Art Arthur, the Center's Resident Fellow in Law and Policy, break down issues that the President chose to highlight.

    Some of the discussed portions of SOTU address:
    • The most political moment of the President's speech came when the President invited congressional members to stand if they agreed that, "The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.”
    • President Trump underscored the success of his border policy, fulfilling a major campaign promise.
    • The speech also attempted to explain the President's current immigration enforcement strategy by highlighting various crimes committed my criminal aliens, including the death of Lizbeth Medina.
    • President Trump promoted four pieces of legislation: “Delilah's Law”, which would prohibit states from issuing commercial driver’s licenses to those here illegally; the stalled DHS funding bill; an act to end federal funding for sanctuary jurisdictions; and the SAVE Act, which would require proof of citizenship when registering to vote in federal elections.
    • There were two noteworthy omissions from the speech: legal immigration and temporary work visas.
    Host

    Jessica Vaughan is the Director of Policy Studies at the Center for Immigration Studies

    Guest

    Art Arthur is the Resident Fellow in Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies

    Related

    It Is Impossible to Fully Vet Immigrants When a Culture of Corruption Exists

    New January Data Still Shows Most Job Growth Going to Immigrants; 88% since 2020, 72% in the last year

    Why Cutting Chain Migration Must Be Part of an Immigration Deal

    Intro Montage

    Voices in the opening montage:
    • Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
    • Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
    • President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
    • Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
    • Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
    • Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
    • Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
    • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
    • Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
    • Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
    • Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.
    • Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    38 m
  • What You Should Know about the DHS Shutdown
    Feb 19 2026
    A partial government shutdown that began at midnight on February 14 has halted appropriated funding for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), affecting FEMA, TSA, the Coast Guard, Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). A new podcast episode provides an assessment of where negotiations stand and what is at stake for immigration enforcement nationwide.

    Guest Grant Newman, Director of Government Relations for the Immigration Accountability Project, discusses the evolving Democratic demands that triggered the partial government shutdown. Initially vague, those demands have since focused on proposed restrictions on ICE operations, including requiring judicial warrants for civil immigration enforcement, prohibiting enforcement at or near certain locations (such as schools, hospitals, churches, courthouses, and more), banning officer face coverings, and mandating body camera requirements. Newman argues these measures would effectively halt interior enforcement without formally abolishing ICE.

    Few details are available about negotiations, with Congress out of session and the White House engaged in closed-door discussions directly with Democratic leadership. The episode examines whether the current strategy is strengthening enforcement opponents’ leverage or creating political risk, particularly if a national emergency occurs during the shutdown.

    The discussion also explores potential Republican counter-demands (including a stop to sanctuary jurisdiction non-cooperation), internal party dynamics, the timing of the shutdown, and the sustainability of DHS operations if the shutdown persists too long.

    The program concludes with commentary from Mark Krikorian, who highlights recent reporting by Andrew Arthur detailing how nearly one million immigration court cases were administratively closed under the Biden administration — creating what he describes as a “legal dark hole” that shielded removable aliens from enforcement and functioned as a de facto amnesty.

    Host

    Mark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies

    Guest

    Grant Newman is Director of Government Relations for the Immigration Accountability Project

    Related

    Immigration Accountability Project

    IAP Action

    The DHS Shutdown: A Reckless Gamble Verging on Madness

    DOJ Reveals that Biden Granted a Quiet Amnesty to Nearly One Million Aliens

    Intro Montage

    Voices in the opening montage:
    • Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.
    • Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.
    • President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.
    • Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.
    • Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.
    • Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.
    • Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.
    • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.
    • Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.
    • Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.
    • Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.
    • Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".
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    43 m