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It starts with a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on white bread. 🥪
Cheap. Easy. Normal.

At 15 years old, Dr. Aaron Chapa found himself overweight, confused, and hungry for direction with no real guidance on food, health, or how the body actually works.

This episode is called “CRAP” because sometimes what we eat, what we trust, and what we’re told is “normal” slowly shapes us in ways we don’t see… until it costs us.

Dr. Aaron Chapa’s health journey didn’t start in a clinic it started in his own body.

In eighth grade, struggling with his weight, he made one bold decision: cut sugar. That single change led to a 45-pound weight loss in one summer and sparked a lifelong pursuit of health and wellness.

But everything shifted when Aaron held his father in his arms as he passed away suddenly from a heart attack. In that moment, he realized the system meant to protect health had failed and his calling became clear.

Today, Dr. Chapa is a functional wellness educator, chiropractor, and co-founder of Living Well Clinical Nutrition Center, helping people heal without drugs or surgery by focusing on health at the cellular level.

🥪 How “normal food” quietly becomes long-term damage
📏 Why a 1-degree change matters inch by inch, it’s a cinch
🫀 How losing his father reshaped his mission and message
📊 Does the American Heart Association actually get nutrition right?
📖 The recipe you can’t afford to miss
🎥 Are we eating “make-believe food”? (Think "Hook" the movie)
🍭 Should sugar be treated like a controlled substance?
🚫 What C.R.A.P. really stands for and why it matters
🥩 Is carnivore the answer… or just part of the conversation?

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🧩 Season Theme: HungryyAs we enter the home stretch of this season, the conversations get even more honest. “Hungry” has always been about the things we long forrconnection, clarity, purposeeand this episode lands right in that space..Most of us spend too much time wishing we could rewrite the past..However, in this episode leans into a mindset shift called “the now and the next.”
It’s about asking two simple but powerful questions:
What can I do with the now that’s right in front of me?
And who is the next person I can impact in a meaningful way?
It’s presence and purpose staying grounded in today while staying open to who might need you tomorrow.

Today I’m joined by Marco Vega a full-time music industry pro, part-time story listener, and the self-proclaimed “bad boy of Music Row.” 🎸😎

Behind the persona is someone who understands connection, presence, and what it means to truly show up for people.

Marco also works with Loqui, a human-to-human “listening as a service” platform that gives people someone real to talk to when life feels heavy. 🗣❤️

✨ How “the now and the next” can reframe the way you move through life
😋 “Don’t yuck someone else’s yum” honoring others’ joy without judgment
📞 Do you have a 911 person for life’s emergencies?
🔌 Why we’re hyper-connected yet deeply lonely
❓ Would your friends actually call you if they needed something?
🏝️ What Tom Hanks & Wilson (yes, that Wilson) still teach us about connection
👂 Loqui’s mission: real people, real listening, real support

Marco Vega

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🧩 Season Theme: Hungry
As we enter the home stretch of this season, the conversations get even more honest. “Hungry” has always been about the things we long for connection, clarity, purpose and this episode lands right in that space.

👣 Guest Introduction:
My guest this week is Jonathan McLean, a true “Why” guy. He’s the kind of person who isn’t afraid to ask the deeper questions and follow them wherever they lead. Our conversation begins in a vulnerable place: the hunger to be seen, heard, and loved by those closest to us. Jonathan opened up about his relationship with his father and the ache that comes from waiting for someone to reach out. It’s something I relate to and maybe you do too.

The title Chicken Or Fish comes right out of Jonathan’s world at Osprey Guide. He shared a powerful picture: the osprey, a bird that doesn’t play it safe. It dives headfirst into cold, deep, messy water to get what it needs. It goes all in, even when it’s uncomfortable. Because staying stuck scared, hesitant, and frozen like a chicken never gets you fed.

That became the heart of our conversation:
Are you diving into the life that’s meant for you?
Or are you standing on the shore, afraid of the water?

We explore what it means to be truly seen, the weight we carry when success doesn’t feel aligned, and the pain of longing for connection from someone who never quite reaches back. And near the end, Jonathan leads us into something I don’t think has ever happened on the show before an exercise you’re invited to do with us. It’s simple, grounding, and surprisingly emotional.

Jonathan’s work centers on helping people understand their wiring through Human Design and step into their lives with clarity and courage. If you’ve felt “successfully stuck,” overwhelmed, or shaped by the expectations of others, his approach may hit home.

💡 Episode Highlights:

• The osprey metaphor: choosing courage over fear
• Jonathan’s deep hunger for connection with his father
• What it means to feel seen and understood
• The weight we carry when success doesn’t feel aligned
• A first-time-on-the-show guided exercise

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