Ross and Carrie discuss the remote viewing panel at Contact in the Desert, a UFO conference in the socal desert. With Alan Steinfeld at the helm, this group of non-naval gazers discuss the history of the Stargate Project and their own methods for internally “viewing” a remote location or object. Then, Alan and Ross run their own tests, with impressively unimpressive results. Plus, an ESP app so bad, two out of three people yelled at it.

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Ross shares a talk he gave at SkeptiCamp LA 2024 looking at how practitioners of non-science wall themselves off from criticism. With examples from our prior investigations, Ross examines why an individual or organization might ignore its critics, fight back, vaguebook, flood the zone, cut ties, wall off itself and its members, or elect to positively engage. Plus, some very important and salient information about the communal behaviors of naked mole rats.

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Ross and Carrie examine the claims of Corey Goode, who rose through the ranks of UFO speakers and alleged abductees, ultimately landing himself a recurring gig on Gaia TV before being quietly ejected. Enter Jason Rice, a new Gaia talking head on the very same show, who claims that he – like Corey – was a member of the Secret Space Program, and is in contact with the Blue Avians (™) that Corey either met or (some might say) created. With Corey suing Gaia and others over his “intellectual property,” does that mean it’s… not real?

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