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Off the Fence with Karen Covy

Off the Fence with Karen Covy

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In this podcast we deconstruct difficult decisions so we can determine what keeps us stuck and, more importantly, how to get unstuck.© 2023 Off the Fence with Karen Covy Relationships Social Sciences
Episodes
  • How My Husband's Affair Transformed Our Marriage [for Good!]
    May 30 2025

    What if the most painful moment in your marriage became the catalyst for its rebirth?

    In 2018 Jenny Townsend was the founder of an award-winning music academy and a successful businesswoman. She was also stressed out, burned out, and found out her husband was cheating. It was then that she realized she had a choice: Throw in the towel on her marriage and the life she’d worked so hard to build, or stay and try to heal and rebuild, not just her marriage, but herself.

    In this raw and deeply honest conversation, Jenny unpacks the complex aftermath of her husband’s betrayal and the emotional toll it took on her. She also shares not only what broke her marriage, but also the intentional, step-by-step work she did to bring back to life.

    Today, Jenny and her husband describe their relationship as their "second marriage" - stronger and more fulfilling than their first.

    Whether you're trying to heal after infidelity, or just wondering what it takes to save a marriage that’s on the brink of divorce, this conversation will leave you thinking about love, forgiveness, and the power of owning your story.

    About Jenny

    Jenny Alday Townsend is a keynote speaker, podcaster, Amazon Best Selling author, and thriving businesswoman focused on inspiring individuals to achieve balance in both their professional lives and marriage. Having experienced and triumphed over her own marital challenges, she penned the book Stroke It is a means of providing support to others facing similar struggles. Jenny is the proud proprietor of Music Compound, a renowned music academy that has garnered accolades such as Best Woman-Owned Business and Small Business of the Year. In recognition of her outstanding achievements, Jenny was honored with the Entrepreneur of the Year award in 2019. Now happily married, Jenny takes pleasure in traveling, savoring delectable cuisine, and cherishing quality time spent with loved ones.

    Connect with Jenny

    You can connect with Jenny on LinkedIn at Jenny Adlay Townsend and on Facebook at Jenny Adlay Townsend. You can follow Jenny on Instagram at Jenny Adlay Townsend and on YouTube at Jenny Townsend. To find out more about Jenny’s work visit her website at Jenny Alday Townsend where you can also download 4 Ground Rules to Enhance Your Life.


    Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

    You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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    50 mins
  • Jill Kaufman: How To Co-Parent Without The Drama
    May 28 2025

    Most parents want to protect their kids during divorce - but what do you do when your co-parent won’t meet you halfway? In this episode, therapist and divorce coach Jill Kaufman breaks down the real-life challenges of co-parenting, especially when emotions run high or you're dealing with a difficult ex.

    Drawing from her own high-conflict divorce, Jill offers a refreshingly honest look at what it takes to shift from emotional chaos to calm collaboration—or at least peaceful parallel parenting.

    Jill explains why traditional co-parenting advice often falls short, especially when your ex isn’t playing fair. She walks through strategies like removing emotion from communication, using tools like the B.I.F.F. method, and knowing when not to respond at all. Her examples are specific, practical, and sometimes surprising—like how one small act of kindness completely changed her own co-parenting dynamic.

    If you've ever wondered how to stay sane while raising kids with someone you’d rather never speak to again, this conversation is full of actionable insights. From parenting teens in two households to helping your kids build resilience when you can’t control your ex’s behavior, Jill shares grounded advice that puts the focus where it belongs—on the kids.

    About Jill

    Jill Barnett Kaufman is a Licensed Therapist, Divorce Coach, Mediator & Co-parenting Expert. After going through her own difficult divorce, she made it her life’s mission to help others not have it so tough. Her book and online course, I’m Getting Divorced, Now What? and her transformational coaching program help parents navigate the overwhelming process of divorce with less stress, more confidence and a greater sense of peace.

    Connect with Jill

    You can connect with Jill on LinkedIn at Jill Kaufman, on Facebook at Jill Kaufman and in her free Facebook Group Separation and Divorce Support Community. You can follow Jill on Instagram at Divorce Coach Jill and on YouTube at Divorce Coach Jill. To find out more about Jill’s work, visit her website at Divorce Coach Jill where you can also find out more about her coaching program, Thriving Through Divorce Coaching Program.


    Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

    You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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    40 mins
  • Coffee, Courage & Codependency: How to Choose Yourself
    May 23 2025

    "You don’t get a badge of courage for doing what everyone else thinks you should be doing."

    When the life you built starts to unravel, how do you find the strength to start again—especially when you're still standing in the middle of it? In this powerful podcast episode, Natalie Fairchild shares the deeply personal story behind building her business, Pacific Perks Coffee, while simultaneously raising kids and navigating her husband’s progressive chronic illness.

    Natalie courageously opens up about the emotional toll of being her husband’s caregiver, the quiet unraveling of their emotional intimacy, and the internal war that raged inside of her between loyalty and self-preservation.

    Natalie’s decision to ultimately end her marriage wasn’t simple—and certainly wasn’t celebrated—but it was necessary - especially once she realized the level of codependency in her marriage. Her reflections on how she dealt with judgment, grief, and the loss of identity in the process are brutally honest and deeply relatable.

    What makes Natalie’s story so compelling is what came after: the messy, nonlinear path to clarity, and the inspiring new life that not only she – but her now ex-husband – have built for themselves.

    If you or someone you know is struggling to make a hard decision to do what you know in your heart is right but what “society” tells you is selfish, this is a podcast episode you’re not going to want to miss.

    About Natalie

    Natalie Fairchild is Founder and Chief Inspirational Officer of Pacific Perks Coffee. She grew up in the Pacific Northwest. For the past 17 plus years she has been leading her company and recently Pacific Perks became a franchise. She contributes her success to surrounding herself with the right people, doing what she says she is going to do and being committed to a balanced life. She is most proud of the team and culture she has built at Pacific Perks, by creating jobs with flexibility and great pay for her employees.

    Connect with Natalie

    You can connect with Natalie on LinkedIn at Natalie Fairchild and on Facebook at Pacific Perks. You can follow Natalie on YouTube at Pacific Perks Coffee and on Instagram at Pacific Perks. To find out more about Pacific Perks Coffee visit the website Pacific Perks Coffee.

    Coming Soon: Stay tuned for a new podcast – ToGet(HER)


    Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

    You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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    50 mins
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